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  1. #1
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    Evumeimei's Avatar
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    Kirsa Ishtola
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    Arcanist Lv 37

    Summoner vs. Bard DPS

    My friend and I often run dungeons together. I play as Bard and they play as Summoner. I find that our dps tends to be low at times and that I'm usually second highest on the aggro list even when I have Foe's playing (which is whenever I can). I am trying to get to the bottom of our lower dps. I don't believe I'm the greatest Bard out there, but I'd like to think I'm fairly competent. Even so, the error may be on my end, that's what I'm trying to figure out...

    But here's my main question:

    Theoretically, if a lvl 60 Bard and Summoner are in a party and are playing at the same skill level, who should be top dps between the two?
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    AriaEnia's Avatar
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    Aria Elunia
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    SMN will out aoe dps every BRD out there. But on single target, BRD still get highet number I think, especially with WM on *cough*. But you could probably wrong, you didn't count the egi's dps too, because they are separated.
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    Ossom Possom
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Lol no, Smn will out dps Bard in every instance of every fight. The only fight I think Bard should DPS a SMN on is T4 because the monsters die so fast and Smns don't have any of their new AoE capable skills in there.
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    Sen_Terrechant's Avatar
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    SMN will out aoe dps every BRD out there. But on single target, BRD still get highet number I think, especially with WM on *cough*. But you could probably wrong, you didn't count the egi's dps too, because they are separated.
    Yeah.. no. On a single target SMN will be atleast 50 if not 100 DPS ahead if both are playing their job correctly.
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evumeimei View Post
    My friend and I often run dungeons together. I play as Bard and they play as Summoner. I find that our dps tends to be low at times and that I'm usually second highest on the aggro list even when I have Foe's playing (which is whenever I can)

    The summoners agro ( and damage ) is divided between him and his pet. It isn't unusual for a bard to out dps/outagro a summoner, just not outdps a smn+his pet xD You need to download something that can....give you a fairly good idea of how your damage is doing ( oops I said too much x-x ) coughparser

    Did you know that your songs and your buffs all contribute agro too? Also casters steal a skill from bard ( Quelling Strikes ) which reduces enmity also. Agro list is not a good indication of much really.

    And to answer your question a smn should be destroying bard dps.
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 07-13-2015 at 09:24 AM.

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    Schondetta's Avatar
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    Veno Sera
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    i have yet to run into a bard at lvl 60 content that has out dpsd my SMN. plenty of melee though. except alex 2 lol
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Schondetta View Post
    i have yet to run into a bard at lvl 60 content that has out dpsd my SMN. plenty of melee though. except alex 2 lol
    That's the most fun playground I think I've ever been to on SMN.
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Schondetta View Post
    i have yet to run into a bard at lvl 60 content that has out dpsd my SMN. plenty of melee though. except alex 2 lol
    Smn yes, smn + pet? no. as I wrote...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    That's the most fun playground I think I've ever been to on SMN.
    I agree 100% it's good to finally have our time in the spotlight for at least a part of the content
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    Player o3o's Avatar
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    Holly White
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 66
    Bards and mch are the lowest dps jobs
    They are not focused on raw damage.

    They are sopport dps. People don't bring bards to raids for damage, they bring them for songs.
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