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  1. #391
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    Mhikail's Avatar
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    Kayu Lynette
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    You bards are so mean to everyone now lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowaeth View Post
    So it's okay for guys like Verius to call someone bad and then it's not okay for someone to call his warriors bad instead, because calling his warrior bad without any evidence is mean, but calling a bard bad without any evidence is perfectly fine?
    I'm not even talking about him.
    Just the way you guys are acting lately, I'm scared ya'll going to have a heart attack.
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    Last edited by Mhikail; 07-12-2015 at 07:37 AM.

  2. #392
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    Snowaeth's Avatar
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    Snow Ball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhikail View Post
    You bards are so mean to everyone now lol.
    So it's okay for guys like Verius to call someone bad and then it's not okay for someone to call his warriors bad instead, because calling his warrior bad without any evidence is mean, but calling a bard bad without any evidence is perfectly fine?
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  3. #393
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Lyrre Myste
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Verius_Nox View Post
    Didn't say bad warriors. That's your own input. But thanks for playing.
    if your being out-dpsed as a bard, your either doing your job horribly or perfectly. not really much of an argument though, seeing as how warriors are dealing dps like damage in certain situations.
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  4. #394
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    Rekujin's Avatar
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    Rekuja Azalon
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    Ravana
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    Bard Lv 100
    The DPS is fine with WM... that's not the argument.

    The argument is CAST BARS, we never asked for them... even if they gave me cast bars while moving, it doesn't change the fact that I rolled BRD for the swift playstyle, not to be casting like a mage...
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    Rekuja Azalon

  5. #395
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    Verius_Nox's Avatar
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    Whispering Crow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowaeth View Post
    But I did say it for you though, so you'r welcome.
    Wasn't talking about bad warriors though, but thanks for playing.
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  7. #396
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujin View Post
    The DPS is fine with WM... that's not the argument.

    The argument is CAST BARS, we never asked for them... even if they gave me cast bars while moving, it doesn't change the fact that I rolled BRD for the swift playstyle, not to be casting like a mage...
    Going back to my suggestion, would you settle for having 4 instants and 4 cast skills? This is assuming that mobility is what somehow breaks BRD and makes it OP. Part of the reason for my suggesting Bloodletter getting a cast time is because it wouldn't interfere much with the rest of the abilities, since it means you'd have to stand still when reacting to BL procs but not much more than that.
    (0)
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  8. #397
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    DCILuther's Avatar
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    Elizabeth Trueblood
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I think when you first start the Archer class, the game tells you that you can move AND use weaponskills unlike other classes. I think SE should have made WM different, different from making BRDs a turret class.
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  9. #398
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    IzzyData's Avatar
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    Izzy Pollux
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    Faerie
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DCILuther View Post
    I think when you first start the Archer class,
    When I first rolled an archer when ARR first came out I would have never expected to be forced to become a bard. That was a stupid design decision to begin with and made me quit the game until rogue came out. Anyone who's managed to get over the fact that they are some kind of support class are now being told they are a caster.

    What the hell happened to being an archer? I'd still play that class if it were even a thing, but unfortunately you are even more gimped by not becoming a bard.
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    Last edited by IzzyData; 07-14-2015 at 01:10 AM.

  10. #399
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    Rekujin's Avatar
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    Rekuja Azalon
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Simple, they should have released BRD and RNG....

    BRD could have cast times, strong songs and buffs to the group.. with a healing/buffing limit break.
    Weapons: Bow Main Hand / Harp Off-Hand
    Overall Potency on Abilities: Medium/Low

    RNG could have been instant bow attacks, strong piercing damage and a DPS limit break.
    Weapons: Bow Main Hand
    Overall Potency on Abilities: Medium/High

    But eh... I'm slowly adjusting to WM, even though I absolutely hate the playstyle.
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    Rekuja Azalon

  11. #400
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    Dorfentyme's Avatar
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    Character
    Delivas Heiral
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Got my MCH to 52 today, was looking forward to Gauss Barrel. Once I got it, it felt slow, clunky, looked awful, etc. I retired my MCH immediately and decided I probably won't ever touch the Bard either. It's just...not very fun or exciting, IMO.

    inb4 "Good, we don't want you running around the battlefield anyways and ruining our day!" Well, news flash, I stood still as a MCH the entire time I DPSed except for when it was necessary to move.
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