Are the GM's on strike?

[Vaer]

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There are tons of bots in N. Than, spiritbond bots that go unbanned for months (they're still playing) and people that are botting gathering nodes that are still unbanned. Some of these are pretty obvious ones. (Ones that speed hack and teleport to nodes) I've given up caring, since they don't seem to care too much if they don't even want to ban those. Some of these have also been reported by multiple people.

Yes, they could probably stand to hire some more GMs. Looking at the credits, there's are less than 10 for NA which is actually pretty sad.

RMT spam isn't a new problem. Every game has this issue unless they outright just sell it themselves. Bigger games like WoW have had this same issue and they probably make more money than this game.

[StrejdaTom]

Perhaps you missed the July 9th "Actions taken against RMT" in the launcher....i think you did. You can also go back and see every week they release ban numbers.

Time Period: Jun. 25, 2015 to Jul. 8, 2015
・Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT advertising: 1777
・Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT/illicit activity: 7417
・Action Details: Permanent ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

Now expect arguments that these numbers mean nothing and SE made them up.

[Rose-Wild]

Time Period: Jun. 25, 2015 to Jul. 8, 2015
・Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT advertising: 1777
・Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT/illicit activity: 7417
・Action Details: Permanent ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

Now expect arguments that these numbers mean nothing and SE made them up.

If im not wrong these are like 1 week bans xD? And the perma bans were like 34? 34 is like the amount of bots i find at any moment of the day in north thanalan in our server alone and this is ment to be world wide bans??

[Raist]

If im not wrong these are like 1 week bans xD? And the perma bans were like 34? 34 is like the amount of bots i find at any moment of the day in north thanalan in our server alone and this is ment to be world wide bans??

The 35 number was temporary bans for participating in RMT/illegal activity.

The 1777 RMT advertisers and 7417 participating in RMT/illicit activity got permanent bans.

Here is the full notice: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...455b882e79fbc3

RMT and other illicit activities upset the balance of the game and, as such, are prohibited under the Terms of Service.

Because we have confirmed the existence of players who are engaging in these illicit activities, we have taken the actions listed below.

Time Period: Jun. 25, 2015 to Jul. 8, 2015
・Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT advertising: 1777
・Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT/illicit activity: 7417
・Action Details: Permanent ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

・Accounts receiving disciplinary action for participation in RMT/illegal activity: 35
・Action Details: Temporary ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

Players who discover any confirmed cheats should, under no circumstances, exploit or disseminate such information. Instead, we ask that players file a report by using the in-game command [System Menu] -> [Support & Information] -> [Contact Us] -> [Report Cheating].

We will continue to take stringent disciplinary action against any accounts with confirmed involvement in RMT/illicit activity; players should take care to steer clear of any activity that violates the Terms of Service.

[VarinaVashai]

In MMOs, bot bans tend to go out in waves.

That is not entierly accurate, for the advertisement bots after being reported they normaly get removed within a few minutes. So if the Op's case is an occurance where a specific advertisement bot has been reported, then left up and running for 24 actual hours. So i wouldnt be so quick to defend SE or the GM's, they could do a better job. SE in particular could provide gm's and players with better tools on multiple levels that would aid in dealing with a large amount of it.

And furthermore your comment on how they pracctise banning cheating in general and how it goes out in waves, thats been done for over 10 years now. It's not exactly a very effective way of doing it either.

[Sicno]

The thing is that there should be a distinction between bots doing the gil farming and bots doing the spam. While a farming bot requires an investigation to see their behavior with spambots it's just a matter of checking their chat messages. The ones doing /tells may be a more delicate issue since I guess they won't just spy into players' tells right away but there's nothing stopping them from checking the /say spammers' history since those are public messages. It's unacceptable for /say bots in cities to remain for over 24 hours without a ban.

Now, the thing is after said ban setting up a new character under a new account may be super fast (they may even have new free trial accounts prepared in advance for whenever one gets banned) so said bans are not an effective meassure, but if the same /say bot remains unbanned for so long after who-knows-how-many reports it means SE is not even trying.

[SovereignAegis]

They ban in waves, huge waves.

Just because the botters get comfortable and then come out in droves and then get washed away in a holy tidal wave of bans.

When dealing with a hydra you take out as many heads as possible, not one at a time.

[Deathmask]

I think the anti RMT plays more like CSI rather than the local street police guy. They investigate for a while to check the acounts connected to that RMT and after some weeks they ban all of them. Instead of chasing that dude around the streets only to have 3 more doing the same thing the next second.

At least i like to believe they do this rather than nothing at all.

[ScarecrowJames]

they do it in waves as normally those gil/etc bots normally come in contact with other accounts (ip tracing). They aren't looking to ban a few trees they are looking for the forest. Yes I know More trees pop up but there are plenty of forest to mow down . Go to a server like Balmung and you will rarely have this trouble. All you will see is a deserted wasteland because there is no new fresh soil.

[Imoye]

The RMT issue in this game is much worse than any other MMO I've played, I've never seen them this aggressive. Part of me is wondering if the issue is because of the high price of housing and players using their services as a quick way to get a house. Besides that, I don't see much purpose for them, I don't otherwise see much use in having tons of gil, the best staff has to be farmed the hard way after all.

Just logged into WoW as I got 7 days free and the gold spam was unbelievable. That said, I'm not even sure I've seen any gil spam after HW release so on my regard it goes unnoticed.