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  1. #11
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    Krixus's Avatar
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    Krixus Rayne
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Sch has been king of healer jobs and still is, hearing complaints just is irritating.
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  2. #12
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    Sabeta's Avatar
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    Hibiki Uta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    Sch has been king of healer jobs and still is, hearing complaints just is irritating.
    1) Eos on average heals just shy of 50% of Physick. Astrologian needs to burn one of their biggest cooldowns to achieve what we've been doing since 2.0.
    2) Our Single-Target healing still trumps WHM, and our "Regen" is still free, and stronger. With Macros we can even toss it anywhere we want, or you can manually cast it I guess. (Going back to AST Bash, they're locked into their one target when using Sysnastry)
    3) Our AoE healing has been buffed significantly enough that Double SCH is totally legit. Especially when you take Emergency Tactics into account.

    Even when nerfed, I strongly believe that SCH is still the Healer & DPS King. I like playing with WHM still because they let me use Selene. AST need not apply.
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  3. #13
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    Sch has been king of healer jobs and still is, hearing complaints just is irritating.
    Why else do you think I don't bother posting about SCH 'issues' aside from dissipation being total garbage?
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  4. #14
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    Cole Evyx
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    They nerfed fairies pretty hard. I am pretty sure that a WHM spamming Regen on players heals about the same.

    That being said I think it is fair, we're sitting in a solid position. If the fairies were outputting significnalty stronger heals I would argue that would be a bad thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    Sch has been king of healer jobs and still is, hearing complaints just is irritating.
    Ast buffs are incoming, hold onto your "nerfbat". We should be working to buff the weaker healer (ast) and not nerf everything because it isn't suffering like AST is.

    Just look at the recent live letter, AST are getting stance-dancing and very likely consideration to mana buffs/shuffle buff.
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    Last edited by SovereignAegis; 07-11-2015 at 02:17 PM.

  5. #15
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    Sch has been king of healer jobs and still is, hearing complaints just is irritating.
    Oh look one of those. Inb4 you tell me more about how the way to fix Ast is basically give it full versions of everything that whm and scholar have plus its own unique stuff - like every other ast thread.
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    Richard Butte
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 90
    There's only one real solution, here: let us equip gear to our fairies.
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  7. #17
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    All they need to do is be open and honest and explain WHAT they did that caused the change. Was it the change to secondary stats (DET)? Is healing linked to a percentage of MND/Weapon Damage/VIT now?

    That way we can understand how the future will map out for us. That's all we want, honestly and openness. Unfortunately, SE seems to consider that a weakness much of the time.
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  8. #18
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    It's actually the other way around, with Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn (with or without the buffed Mind Pot) you can float for quite a while in CS, where as with Selene you can't hope to float anymore unless you have a good PLD with you.
    If we're going to talk about using cooldowns, then I would argue that the Scholar being in CS for 21 seconds longer is a smaller boost to overall damage than the 3% Haste Selene gives to the party. So even if you can float for longer in CS with Eos, there is no actual point to doing so.

    Anyways, I've read the replies in this thread and I want to stress a few things. I fully understand that Scholars are still great healers. I can and have healed most content in this game and it wasn't too difficult. I could do it with Selene and I am sure I could do it with Eos as well. I am not claiming that Scholars are in a bad position nor that they need a buff to sit level with the others. I know the strengths of the class and I do play the other healers as well. I know that Scholar has no troubles in comparison to the other healers.

    What I am trying to get at is I feel as though my fairy is nowhere near as useful as they once were. The Scholar heals for so much more now that the fairy really isn't bringing much beyond their own cooldowns. having 10k+ HP is very common in the current end-game. When my fairy is healing for 10% of that every five seconds to a single person, I am just not seeing how their healing is really helping. Do I rely on my fary to patch up DPS? Not really. I usually toss a physick and leave the minor patching up to them or tell them to do so. My point is that in terms of healing, the fairy is just not doing it and this really impacts Eos. As far as I am concerned, Eos is really only good for giving everyone's healing a 20% boost. Well, except the Scholar, since Lustrate and Indominability is unaffected by it.

    I know Scholar's are in a great place. I just wish that the fairy played a larger role in why they're in that place. As it stands, Selene is really the only fairy worth using. But once again, Alexander Savage is coming, so that may change.
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    Last edited by Rubiss; 07-12-2015 at 12:01 PM. Reason: Character limit

  9. #19
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    Character
    Etheom Deva
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 55
    I'm not sure how I feel about the new "eat my fairy" mechanic... I'd rather keep my fairy if she had greater potency...
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  10. #20
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    Hibiki Uta
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
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    Honestly? I think we've been too powerful for too long. I still feel incredibly powerful, and even with the weaker Eos/Selene I feel she still pulls her fair share. (Reminder: even in this nerfed state Selene is still a better version of Synastry that doesn't have a cooldown.) If they want to buff us back up then I won't complain, but I feel that my abilities are "appropriate" right now.
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