The Tale of the Dark Knight (DRK Spoilers)

[Dererk]

I think Frays body was moving but not talking if you look in your journal you see it as if he's writing it how ever it can be looked at that you wer writing it all along.


So everything that he said was pretty much you.

[Rannie]

You know thinking about the storyline to the point of what I had done and a lot of the people complaining on the forums after 2.55 went down makes me wonder if se knew what type of backlash they would get when they did what they did or were they sitting there watching and reading the forums the whole time and decided to take the story that way. Or maybe in just thinking to much into it..

[Cilia]

I think Frays body was moving but not talking if you look in your journal you see it as if he's writing it how ever it can be looked at that you wer writing it all along.


So everything that he said was pretty much you.

Whether or not you're physically talking and Fray is just a corpse animated by your shadow is immaterial. "Fray" is you, so of course everything s/he said was you.

Either way, people do look at Fray when s/he addresses them, and the guard / merchant do ask where Fray went after the 45 quest.

You know thinking about the storyline to the point of what I had done and a lot of the people complaining on the forums after 2.55 went down makes me wonder if se knew what type of backlash they would get when they did what they did or were they sitting there watching and reading the forums the whole time and decided to take the story that way. Or maybe in just thinking to much into it..

Maaaaaaybe... besides the Ul'dah weapon thing, "Fray" was pretty generalized with his/her frustrations. I forget how many people I had to explain to that we had to leave our weapon at the door... half a dozen? Ugh...

[Rannie]

Lol it was atleast 10 people that I can remember lol

Its heartening to know though from that that we were right about it to an extent.

[Aqua_Amaiyo]

Idk if I'm the only one who felt excited by this and would love to see more. But the huge huge highlight to me of the lvl 50 quest was: Getting to see my freaking character actually talk (if though it was my shadow talking) BUT STILL!!!! Lips moving! Words of text and all!!!!

[Mieck]

So DRK storyline is basically a combination of Hollow Ichigo/Evil Ryu/FF4 Cecil plot elements.

It's actually much more Fight Club than anything else, and the clues start to drop in during the 40 quest, and are then rammed home in the 45.

Edit: and now I see that's a comparison lots of other people have made

Edit: And yes, the Fight Club analogy works because it's all about your character's perception of Fray, not other people's, so at first, you think s/he's there. Just like when Tyler is listing the rules of Fight Club, the narrator thinks he is looking on. It's not until you give that tirade to the Limsa merchant that it all falls into place. Fray has gone and you're the only one there. The Maelstrom guy says he can understand why you're angry.

[saber_alter]

It's not until you give that tirade to the Limsa merchant that it all falls into place. Fray has gone and you're the only one there. The Maelstrom guy says he can understand why you're angry.

the maelstorm guard is actually still referring to Fray at that point.

our realization just comes from subtle clues. things fray says that fray shouldn't know.

"after what happened at Ul'dah?"

our character doesn't know it's the literal personification of our desire to break the shackles of fate and be free until we see ourselves as a fully equipped dark knight seeking to pull you away from the vicious cycle you have shoehorned yourself into one way or another.

[Cilia]

"Fray's" presence is often ambiguous, but talking to certain people confirms s/he is actually physically there. The Maelstrom guard, for instance, asks where your "friend" went after "Fray's" outburst, and though it's rare whenever "Fray" addresses people they do look at him/her. Definitive proof that "Fray" is physically there comes from the end of the 50 quest, when Drillemont says they're going to give your "friend" a proper burial.

Like Saber said, it's not until "Fray's" line about Ul'dah that it becomes crystal clear. Everything before then is ambiguous.

I felt it was more like a character's arc in Persona 4, exploring who we are beneath our mask of strength and stoicism. The important thing to note is that it's not just hate and rage, it's pain and sorrow as well...

EDIT

I think DRK's theme song is The War Still Rages Within from Metal Gear Rising....

[Arkanethered]

Loved the 30-50 stuff... Really some of the best storytelling SE has done in this game imo..

50-60... Meh, seemed lost, and forced.

[Cilia]

The 50-60 quests were... okay, not nearly as good as the 30-50 quest was.

Probably because, after the big reveal, the 30-50 quests becomes very, very personal and introspective. Conversely the 50-60 quest makes you play second fiddle to Sidurgu, and you could be swapped out for any other DRK. The 30-50 quest, ultimately, was about you, the Warrior of Light, not the Scions, or the Alliance, or Ishgard, or the Heretics, or the Dravanians. You.