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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rikkustrife View Post
    Wanderer's minuet doesn't make bard any harder to play though.
    Just makes it unfun, and many bards are not using it to take that stance.

    Also, Are we really going to talk about balance on class play styles? I mean really? People are so Jaded it seems. No fair I got to stand here and cast, but they can run around and shoot. So what? Play a bard also? Maybe you don't like your class as much as you think, if you are willing to cry about what others have. Giving more reasons to argue about being a caster bard.
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Just makes it unfun, and many bards are not using it to take that stance.

    Also, Are we really going to talk about balance on class play styles? I mean really? People are so Jaded it seems. No fair I got to stand here and cast, but they can run around and shoot. So what? Play a bard also? Maybe you don't like your class as much as you think, if you are willing to cry about what others have. Giving more reasons to argue about being a caster bard.
    It's not about jealousy, it's about balance.

    They introduced 5 new skills for every job. BRDs have always done lower damage per hit because they can move and attack, and don't need to be in close range. It keeps balance with the melee DPS jobs. So the new skills increase the BRDs damage at the cost of having to stand still for a whopping 1.5s. Boo hoo. The cries of "I don't wanna be a caster" are all hyperbolic BS. 1.5s is nothing compared to casters. It's just a charge attack like in an action game.

    "Fun" is entirely subjective. You cannot claim "it makes BRD unfun", because that's only true for you, not everyone who plays BRD on the whole. It doesn't significantly change the playstyle of BRD at all. It added charge attacks that have a significantly shorter charge time than any spell from a caster.
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    "Fun" is entirely subjective. You cannot claim "it makes BRD unfun", because that's only true for you, not everyone who plays BRD on the whole.
    Maybe not, but what does the vast majority feel? Because I have seen a huge chunk of Bards angry about this, but only a handful seem to not care or like it. So who should we cater to? The few or the majority?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Maybe not, but what does the vast majority feel? Because I have seen a huge chunk of Bards angry about this, but only a handful seem to not care or like it. So who should we cater to? The few or the majority?

    Ahh, the age old fallacy of "I see more people complaining about it than not".

    Firstly, that's anecdotal. Personally, I've seen far more people fine with/ok/liking the new mechanics than I've seen complain about it. So which one of us is correct? The answer is neither.

    Secondly, the forums in no way represent the majority, nor can you determine what the vast majority feel from the forums.

    Thirdly, people who are upset about something are far, far more vocal than people content. People are far more likely to make a post and whine about something than make a post and praise something. That's why even with the most successful games in history, their forums are filled with nothing but vitriol... because the people who are actually content with the game are PLAYING the game, and the people not are whining about it.
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