Who actually got conj , so that hey could be a dmg mage ?

[Coglin]

Anyways why can't con have both? Looking at the spells, THM looks a lot more like RDM then either a strict BLM or WHM. Or they could push THM into an entirely new direction that isn't RDM, BLM, or WHM.

Because the devs said so. They said for now, each class will have one and only one job. They listed BLM and WHM as the only 2 caster jobs. Those are facts from devs post.

I am not asking you to like or agree with it, but to get on the offensive with me because I simply work off the devs information is illogical. If you didn't read the post at the time the devs posted it, I am sorry, but I am not posting links so you may catch up to what is common knowledge. Do your own research my friend.

Secondly, I am not debating whether some are right or wrong, thats not an issue. My debate is based on the reasoning some are posting as to how they came up with there logic for it. You don't have to like it. But I am not gonna sit here and read how elemental nukes = BLM while they deny the posobility of CON being WHM because they have cure/protect/shell, which are much more logically linked to healer then elemental nukes are linked to BLM.

As Gicker mentions, CON have to have some form of damage. The only forms of damage we have in game are Blunt, Pierce, Slash, Water, Ice, Earth(all 3 affinities make up umbral), Fire, Thunder, and Wind(the three of which make up astral).

The logic of Blunt, Pierce, or Slashing seem nonexisted for options for CON as its main form of damage, thus only leaving the Elemental affinities. Based on the fact that they got elemental affinity damage over physical damage in no way makes them a "logical assumption" to be BLM wgile supporting the cure/curaga/protect/shell abilities.

[Medura]

Because the devs said so. They said for now, each class will have one and only one job. They listed BLM and WHM as the only 2 caster jobs. Those are facts from devs post.

I am not asking you to like or agree with it, but to get on the offensive with me because I simply work off the devs information is illogical. If you didn't read the post at the time the devs posted it, I am sorry, but I am not posting links so you may catch up to what is common knowledge. Do your own research my friend.

Secondly, I am not debating whether some are right or wrong, thats not an issue. My debate is based on the reasoning some are posting as to how they came up with there logic for it. You don't have to like it. But I am not gonna sit here and read how elemental nukes = BLM while they deny the posobility of CON being WHM because they have cure/protect/shell, which are much more logically linked to healer then elemental nukes are linked to BLM.

As Gicker mentions, CON have to have some form of damage. The only forms of damage we have in game are Blunt, Pierce, Slash, Water, Ice, Earth(all 3 affinities make up umbral), Fire, Thunder, and Wind(the three of which make up astral).

The logic of Blunt, Pierce, or Slashing seem nonexisted for options for CON as its main form of damage, thus only leaving the Elemental affinities. Based on the fact that they got elemental affinity damage over physical damage in no way makes them a "logical assumption" to be BLM wgile supporting the cure/curaga/protect/shell abilities.

Ah, fun fun fun ^^ "Because the devs said so" ^^ Please link to that post Ive read every post that has popped up the last 2 months and nothing about 1 job per class! This is what you think. Please don't lie just to try to save your face.

[Albio]

Because the devs said so. They said for now, each class will have one and only one job. They listed BLM and WHM as the only 2 caster jobs. Those are facts from devs post.

I am not asking you to like or agree with it, but to get on the offensive with me because I simply work off the devs information is illogical. If you didn't read the post at the time the devs posted it, I am sorry, but I am not posting links so you may catch up to what is common knowledge. Do your own research my friend.

Secondly, I am not debating whether some are right or wrong, thats not an issue. My debate is based on the reasoning some are posting as to how they came up with there logic for it. You don't have to like it. But I am not gonna sit here and read how elemental nukes = BLM while they deny the posobility of CON being WHM because they have cure/protect/shell, which are much more logically linked to healer then elemental nukes are linked to BLM.

As Gicker mentions, CON have to have some form of damage. The only forms of damage we have in game are Blunt, Pierce, Slash, Water, Ice, Earth(all 3 affinities make up umbral), Fire, Thunder, and Wind(the three of which make up astral).

The logic of Blunt, Pierce, or Slashing seem nonexisted for options for CON as its main form of damage, thus only leaving the Elemental affinities. Based on the fact that they got elemental affinity damage over physical damage in no way makes them a "logical assumption" to be BLM wgile supporting the cure/curaga/protect/shell abilities.

Dude, what are you talking about? When have elemental nukes not been linked to BLM? RDM can cast them, but conversely RDM can also cast cure/protect/shell. I don't understand why you're "logic" of linking those spells to WHM is more valid than other's logic of linking nukes to BLM. Can you please name a Final Fantasy game, yes this is a Final Fantasy game, if you doubt me look at your game case, where BLM wasn't capable of casting elemental nukes? Let's see, they could do it in I, II, III, IV, V, IX, X, X-2, XI...gosh, how silly of us to "assume" anything. And the name of this thread is "who got conj so they could be a damage mage?" That means people are going to come on here to discuss why they chose CON and what they based their decision on. It's also pretty indicative that the people who post on this forum are going to say "yes, I got CON to be damage mage." It doesn't mean people can't see it being WHM. And it isn't a forum for you to tell people they're wrong and foolish because they don't agree with you, who by the way, has no actual foundation for his opinion. We might be assuming things, but so are you. I think we should just take a look really quick, for Black Mage conjurer has Thunder, Water, Aero, Blizzard, Fire, Stone, Thunder II, Water II, Aero II, Blizzard II, Fire II, Stone II, Burst, Flood, Tornado, Freeze, Flare, Quake, Shock, Drown, Choke, Rasp, Frost, Burn, Shock II, Drown II, Choke II, Rasp II, Frost II, Burn II, Siphon MP, Shock Spikes, Shock Spikes II, and Sleep. Conjurer for White Mage has Cure, Cure II, Cure III, Rebirth, Raise, Raise II, Shell, Protect, Shell II, Protect II, Repose, Stoneskin, Poisona, Paralyna and Silena. So that is 34 traditionally Black Mage spells to 15 traditionally White Mage spells. Not sure how your math is but, that means the majority of Conjurer's spells are traditional Black Mage spells.

[Klive]

Dude, what are you talking about? When have elemental nukes not been linked to BLM? RDM can cast them, but conversely RDM can also cast cure/protect/shell. I don't understand why you're "logic" of linking those spells to WHM is more valid than other's logic of linking nukes to BLM. Can you please name a Final Fantasy game, yes this is a Final Fantasy game, if you doubt me look at your game case, where BLM wasn't capable of casting elemental nukes? Let's see, they could do it in I, II, III, IV, V, IX, X, X-2, XI...gosh, how silly of us to "assume" anything. And the name of this thread is "who got conj so they could be a damage mage?" That means people are going to come on here to discuss why they chose CON and what they based their decision on. It's also pretty indicative that the people who post on this forum are going to say "yes, I got CON to be damage mage." It doesn't mean people can't see it being WHM. And it isn't a forum for you to tell people they're wrong and foolish because they don't agree with you, who by the way, has no actual foundation for his opinion. We might be assuming things, but so are you. I think we should just take a look really quick, for Black Mage conjurer has Thunder, Water, Aero, Blizzard, Fire, Stone, Thunder II, Water II, Aero II, Blizzard II, Fire II, Stone II, Burst, Flood, Tornado, Freeze, Flare, Quake, Shock, Drown, Choke, Rasp, Frost, Burn, Shock II, Drown II, Choke II, Rasp II, Frost II, Burn II, Siphon MP, Shock Spikes, Shock Spikes II, and Sleep. Conjurer for White Mage has Cure, Cure II, Cure III, Rebirth, Raise, Raise II, Shell, Protect, Shell II, Protect II, Repose, Stoneskin, Poisona, Paralyna and Silena. So that is 34 traditionally Black Mage spells to 15 traditionally White Mage spells. Not sure how your math is but, that means the majority of Conjurer's spells are traditional Black Mage spells.

Agreed, but most people seem stuck, nailed, and riveted to the CON having cure line and thus has to be white mage.

[Sypherblade]

Agreed, but most people seem stuck, nailed, and riveted to the CON having cure line and thus has to be white mage.

I agree with you 100% Klive. I leveled up both Con and Thm... and am so confused on why con got the curagas and thm didn't. Its pretty much priest vs wizard here and wizard got the healing spot.

Just waiting eagerly for the job system to come out an we see what the actual plans are...instead of speculating on what a few comments were x amount of days ago.