the card shuffle

[Mclyde]

A good spread of the spire card on a tp users team is so great to rush a dungeon with aoe ! Good monks know what i'm talking about !

And all the time you win on your offensive & defensive abilities thanks to the spear cards... too bad that so much players don't pay enough attention to the buff we grant to them.
But when you bump into a group that know how works the Astro... it's so beautifull... everything is so swift and fast.

The worst is when you grant to the Tank the spear card upgraded with double time and time dilatation, and the guy is able to not use a SINGLE defensive ability in 45 seconds !
You just wasted 3 skill (2 cards + 1 buff) and still have to spam heal on him cause he thinks that you're only here to heal his ass instead of assist with dps.

TANKS ! USE YOUR FREAKING DEF SKILL !

[Krixus]

As a pld myself we generally try to keep one buff on at a time, for around the clock mitigation. Don't waste spear on a tank, because it is likely you will lower the recast of a single ability. Spear is basically used on self or RR.

[Mclyde]

Using a card of ssomeone who doesn't know his class is a waste whatever is this card.
The thing is to finish the dungeon the faster as we can, and, when the tank uses his defenses, he needs less heal, so i can dps, and then we are faster.
The spear card save 30 or 40 second on all his cooldown... it's not like it was 5 sec.

[Krixus]

It's 36 seconds off sentinal and bulwark, 24 convalescence and awareness, 18 rampart. Most those will be up again before the next group pull since you are referring to dungeons. Just a waste honestly, better to RR it in dungeons, or communicate with a dps before fight, but that can be a hassle.

[zuzu-bq]

Today I was talking a bit about AST in general in one of my Linkshells. One player said he would likely right-click off a spire if he has a "good royal road" effect that he didn't want to waste on Spire or even Ewer.

In my opinion that's not justified, you're just giving up on your RNG-control abilities to depend on the RNG to make "good combos". Like I said before, even if it looks a weak buff, and now a weak combo too, use it. It'll make a difference. I agree that some cards and combos are better than others, but if you give up on your cards by giving it to no one you're just wasting your buffing potential.

He talked about asking if someone is having TP/MP problems before using a Ewer/Spire. That's also another problem I see on AST player. Those cards are about economy and not refresh.

What do you all think about it?

[lagata]

I see what you're saying. From a yugioh player point of view, you want to use the cards you get but in every tcg, you have a hand full of cards so when you draw that situational card at the wrong time, you can hold off on using it OR use it as a cost for something else. Basically, you have more options. And with this current card system, your options are very very limited.

[Mclyde]

He talked about asking if someone is having TP/MP problems before using a Ewer/Spire. That's also another problem I see on AST player. Those cards are about economy and not refresh.

What do you all think about it?

When i don't myself have mp problem with my Astro i give the Ewer card to Black Mage, cause it will increase how much fire they can launch before they have to swap to ice skill.
I use it too on Dark knight when i saw this one understood how works his class and use Darkside as often as he can.

Regarding The Spire, if i'm with 3 tp users i'll definitely use it to allow them to spam their aoe skill.
Otherwise i'll burn it to get the royal road. But, i read somewhere that we'll have access to the teamates' Tp stock with the 3.0 or 3.1
An other good utility of these two energazing cards is to use them on a player who just got resurrected, cause his Mp/Tp would be low.