We should have a "Lance mage", "Ninja Sword mage", "Fist mage"

[Aiselia]

I've started to just ignore non-Bards trying to convince Bards that it's good, because nobody who hasn't mained a Bard can understand the real problems with it. They just assume it's all about not being able to hop around the room while shooting.

[Odowla]

Does it do wanderer's any justice if i say i just did 1k sustained while spinning around the dummy?

[Arkenne]

Im just here to say that NIN is already a mage!!

The Mudra's 0.5 seconds are very cast-bar-like and can't use any other skill while we are with them!! (also most Ninjutsus are magic damage)
Hell, can't use them more than once every 20 seconds :/ (and mudra lag doesn't help)

BUUUUUT I can still run around and auto-attack while using them so I'll show that off :v
As a fellow Ninja said "-Pose- -Pose- -Sneeze- -Bunny- NOOOO D:"

[BristolRuss]

Main Class
Lancer Lv 60

Not. A. Bard.

Bard has been suffocated by casting times and needs help, it doesn't even play close to how it did before.

This has nothing to do with bard. I have just seen an awful lot of threads/comments by you complaining about things.

[Defteros]

Main Class
Lancer Lv 60

Not. A. Bard.

Bard has been suffocated by casting times and needs help, it doesn't even play close to how it did before.

Main Class
Scholar Lv 60
Not. A. Bard.

anyway.
"suffocated".
with an 1.5 second cast.
lmao.

[LordTiberiusRex]

Main Class
Lancer Lv 60

Not. A. Bard.

Bard has been suffocated by casting times and needs help, it doesn't even play close to how it did before.

Is this the "If you don't play the class, you have no credibility" game I'm seeing? Fancy game, old chap.

The person you're accusing is a 50 Bard, whereas you, the accuser, are a 32 Bard. Sure, I'll concede that both of you don't have WM, however neither one of you has ever used WM itself.

For comparison: It's like trying to make a guide on ninjas without any practical experience with it.

The Mudra's

Let's not forget that certain mudra actions can have GCD bleed.

[Allyrion]

Well, like I've said before, positionals are melee's version of casting. Instead of being forced to stand still, it's the opposite - we're forced to move into position.

Similarly to BRD getting WM was NIN getting more positionals (when it was almost completely positional free).
Many were upset with that, but it's died down because we only actually got 2 added positionals.

But that is a better analogy of a play style change and what melee contends with that is similar to casting in it's restriction of free movement.

Not saying BRD should be happy with WM or anything, just that the analogy is bad since there's already an equivalent.
Unless of course the example included positionals added on to ranged as well (lol).

[Leonus]

Main Class
Lancer Lv 60

Not. A. Bard.

Bard has been suffocated by casting times and needs help, it doesn't even play close to how it did before.

Oh, then I guess you have way more say with your lvl 32 brd? Should we disregard all your posts even MORE than the person with a level 33 or higher brd?

The nerve of some people....

[Korashy]

If it's gives me more dps i'll take cast bars all day as a ninja.

A compromise could be to let bards move while they cast. That way they can't b***** about not being mobile

[Katchoo]

I've started to just ignore non-Bards trying to convince Bards that it's good, because nobody who hasn't mained a Bard can understand the real problems with it. They just assume it's all about not being able to hop around the room while shooting.

This is accurate.

Well, like I've said before, positionals are melee's version of casting.

I see where you are coming from but it's still wrong. You already HAD positionals. If you were say a melee job with NO positionals and then it changed to EVERYTHING being positional you might be on the right track.

That way they can't b***** about not being mobile

See top quote. No main Bard cares about not moving. Also casting while moving? Why not just give us a Flat 30% buff instead for all the difference? I'm gonna assume you were being pedantic.