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  1. #141
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    Ryel's Avatar
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    And? I don't think mid-core players that can't transition to Savage should be getting rewards on par with those that can and do, and I don't think SE should put in a middle step outside of the usual 3-month later upgrade item drop.
    The endgame 8-man serves 2 purposes. The first is to expand on the story, while the second is to provide a challenge and reward those that overcome that challenge. NM achieves the first while Savage should achieve the second and imo, it should not be clearable by anyone that's not playable at their highest ability or atleast close to it. As to midcore players having no content, they'll have content. Savage should provide a sufficient challenge to them. If they can't clear it, then they can either get better or forgo the rewards.
    Nobody is saying they should recieve the same rewards for hardcore content as those who are tackling the highest levels of the game.

    You specifically said a reckoning for the midcore/hardcore crowd, but the issue is more that any content without the (savage) level of difficulty has usually been nerfed until it's faceroll easy effectively cutting midcore content out of the game.

    Due to the constant demands for nerfs (see: echo) for the average midcore player there are only two options when it comes to types of content;

    faceroll easy or savage.

    also love the irony of you complaining about the number of "get good" threads while simultaneously telling midcore players to "get good"
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    Last edited by Ryel; 07-10-2015 at 10:19 PM.

  2. #142
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    Omegakiyohime's Avatar
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    Sasch'a Maruhime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
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    And? Maybe midcore players can ask for a nerf after the fact so they can tackle savage. I don't think they SE should be in middle level.

    And yes, there will be a reckoning and a sudden realization that a lot of people are not as "hardcore" as they think they are. I cleared both coils (while I was still raiding) before the echo so I'm well aware of the fact that many people viewed clearing "coil" as some statement of their skill, when it really was a statement about their gear level after a couple of weeks.

    That being said, if coil/alexander didn't contain a related side story, I'd be ok with the lack of a story mode as well.
    Life is full of irony.
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    Last edited by Omegakiyohime; 07-10-2015 at 10:34 PM.

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