This new bard play style blows.

[nuyu11]

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I have try many test in 4 man dungeon while with WM or without it mostly my DPS are same 750+ with my current gear, for AOE I will go up to 800 and its truly hard to go beyond that with WM but I can go to 1.1k without WM. Yeah I agree while WM on your TP consuming is a bit less and ok for long fight, but for dot skill there is not much different because you can spam 2 skill with no cast time and your BL proc are higher with WM off.

For my personal point of view WM is not a DPS stance it's just a Burst stance while your DPS will slowly drop little by little, you can have massive dmg with EA + buff opened (Normally starting fight) but your DPS will drop due to your cast time and no auto attack. You can burst ADD with EA, but not for high DPS run and nowadays BARD are less needed for Bis EX, they more prefer MCH instead.

[Lillia]

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Machinist is almost the same but not quite, their play style is still stand-still but I -think- they get more abilities than we do which allows them to insta attack more in stance but I'm not positive so yes, machinist would probably be preferred more over a bard still learning the proper rotation for WM if that's the case.

Have you tried swapping though or do you just leave it on? The thing with WM is that you swap, not leave it... like I said, you are losing extra attacks with it completely off all the time as well. Each bard is probably all using different rotations too which would give different numbers.

[nuyu11]

Have you tried swapping or just leaving it on? The thing with WM is that you swap, not leave it... like I said, you are losing extra attacks with it off as well though. We probably all use different rotations too which would give different numbers.

I just play this game about 4 month I only have Bard for lvl 60 Job, this is the Job that I play for now, I do many try and error,watch lots of video but yet still not really satisfied with current change. If I not swap that WM on or off my DPS would be worse that that, checking DPS with dummies is different with actual fight.

[Lillia]

I just play this game about 4 month I only have Bard for lvl 60 Job, this is the Job that I play for now, I do many try and error,watch lots of video but yet still not really satisfied with current change. If I not swap that WM on or off my DPS would be worse that that, checking DPS with dummies is different with actual fight.

Actual fights also normally have a few phases though, Bismarck included. I was actually inside BEX today and I can 100% say that there are parts in the fight where you can stand still plus if you think you're going to start moving or do start to have to dodge.. safest bet is to turn off WM as soon as you can until there's another period where you're just standing then you can swap around it. I believe WM definitely works best with buffs by the way.