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  1. #31
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    Hyouretsuzan's Avatar
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    Hyouretsuzan Vlondett
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    Dude I just said literally three posts above this that you don't need to be so mean for literally no reason.
    He's just upset that some people don't agree with his opinion. Anyways, two thing can happen if he continues to derail: his thread gets locked since it contributes to nothing. (Him insulting others is not "General Discussion") or he gets temp banned for reason one.
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  2. #32
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    studionevermore1's Avatar
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    Arn Nevermore
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 58
    I can't even... look people aee aware, they'll make some changes. In the meantime try another class! There's plenty out there to try whilst they "fix" it.
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  3. #33
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    Yeah but see you're in the minority. A "Greasy rickshaw" might mean one thing to me but it probably means something entirely different to literally everyone else.

    It's not that I don't like you it's that I'm subtly telling you "People are going to report you to mods if you don't act civil".
    I don't really care if I get reported to the mods. I don't see myself not acting civil. I see myself asking people if they don't like what I have to say. Stay out of the thread. They kept on, and wanted to talk about skill.

    I have been very Civil. I just don't feel like I should have to explain something as simple as, if you don't like the thread. Ignore it.
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  4. #34
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by studionevermore1 View Post
    snip.
    Not really, they all played the same. This was the reason I liked bard style.
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  5. #35
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    nuyu11's Avatar
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    Kokotsu Kotsu
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
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    Please share me your result, if you said as a burst opener everyone know about that. DPS while on WM and without it are nothing much different.
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  6. #36
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    Lillia Hope
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    Please share me your result, if you said as a burst opener everyone know about that. DPS while on WM and without it are nothing much different.
    Except you're also losing two extra skills and also taking time to reapply dots with two skills instead of one for more TP... while another bard is saving that time to do actual phys attacks, the cast time is more or less around the same amount of time as GCD too plus you can just swap it off when you feel like it's a better situation for AA or mobility...

    So all you're really losing is AA until you decide to turn it off unless blood letter resets, then you're losing a bit there in the middle of cast...

    But I agree, AA does make up for a lot of DPS round ups however I think the skill is ok, it just needs more fixing with it's kinks.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 07-10-2015 at 03:37 PM.

  7. #37
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    Kaedan94's Avatar
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    I don't really care if I get reported to the mods. I don't see myself not acting civil. I see myself asking people if they don't like what I have to say. Stay out of the thread. They kept on, and wanted to talk about skill.

    I have been very Civil. I just don't feel like I should have to explain something as simple as, if you don't like the thread. Ignore it.
    You apparently don't know how forums work. They aren't a soapboax or complaint box for you to simply shout your opinion to the rooftops without any reply/disagreement. That's what blogs are for. If you want to just whine and not have people challenge you, then make a blog and disable comments (or delete ones you don't like).

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with the new BRD skills. All these stupid claims of "I don't want to play a BLM" are ridiculous. It's 1.5s of having to stand still. And in exchange we get 30% damage boost. Perfectly fair/balanced. Does it change the playstyle? Not really... not unless you were one of those annoying, bunny hopping BRDs that ran around for absolutely no reason. And technically those BRDs can still do that... they just can't take advantage of the new skills.
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  8. #38
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    Kokotsu Kotsu
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
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    I have try many test in 4 man dungeon while with WM or without it mostly my DPS are same 750+ with my current gear, for AOE I will go up to 800 and its truly hard to go beyond that with WM but I can go to 1.1k without WM. Yeah I agree while WM on your TP consuming is a bit less and ok for long fight, but for dot skill there is not much different because you can spam 2 skill with no cast time and your BL proc are higher with WM off.

    For my personal point of view WM is not a DPS stance it's just a Burst stance while your DPS will slowly drop little by little, you can have massive dmg with EA + buff opened (Normally starting fight) but your DPS will drop due to your cast time and no auto attack. You can burst ADD with EA, but not for high DPS run and nowadays BARD are less needed for Bis EX, they more prefer MCH instead.
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  9. #39
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    Dorfentyme's Avatar
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    Delivas Heiral
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Inb4 people come in saying "This thread has been done to death!"

    Oh wait...goodness if you don't reply then it won't gain any traction. You're helping by replying to the thread...and so am I(but I don't lose sleep over it like many others do).
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  10. #40
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Im glad Dark Knight his skills dont have a casttime... because they are wielding a massive weapon!
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