This new bard play style blows.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Shhh, Common sense does not belong in game design, or in the forums.

And that would be why you have a casting stance you can't get used to or refuse to adapt to. Must suck, huh?

[Wavaryen]

And that would be why you have a casting stance you can't get used to or refuse to adapt to. Must suck, huh?

The stupid is strong with a lot of the people on these forum. Here let me make it so simple that a four year old could understand.

IT IS NOT FUN. Big words I know, but we do have google. Look it up if you are having trouble understanding.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The stupid is strong with a lot of the people on these forum. Here let me make it so simple that a four year old could understand.

IT IS NOT FUN. Big words I know, but we do have google. Look it up if you are having trouble understanding.

That's just it. I DO understand it. And have no issue with it, however imperfect it is. But I adapt and learn, thus I'm still having fun. Sorry that my 4 year old understanding grasps it better than you do.

I also grasp civility well enough to both understand that what you're doing is being the condescending internet tough guy, playing the "I'm just being civil and breaking it down so it's easy for even the simplest to understand" card (a card older than the internet, mind you), AND that it's rather civil to get what you give. So it's your choice; you can play the tough guy, making claims of keeping it civil under the pretense of "if you don't like it, don't look at it/don't reply" or maybe perhaps you can straighten up and ACTUALLY be civil, perhaps offering suggestions on improvement or even methods to play the class despite such "terrible" changes. Your call. You get what you give.

[Wavaryen]

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I am just going to take my own advice. You don't understand. What works for you does not work for others. You can't make a argument to save your life. Just because you got use to it, and think it is fine does not mean every one should learn to enjoy it.

*sighs* no point in talking with you. I am just going to like I said take my own advice and ignore. You can disagree with me, and I will be fine. At least have enough brains to understand what a subjective argument is. and coming to a thread saying learn to play, Is annoying when talking about fun of the class.

Just because you got use to it does not mean others should learn to play. Just because people do well with it. Does not mean people should learn as well. On the subject of fun. I was talking about myself subjective, and never once judge your views or skills in the matter. I am sure many also have fun with this new style. I question the logic of this change, and i question being called a support dps with the tools we have.

[nuyu11]

Agree.

We chose to play because it's fun for us, I also hate the fact that we are forced to learn. I pay this game not to learn the sh** that we don't like, when someone doing the thing they like they will give all their got and work for it. That's why in school we have our favourite subject and we got good mark on it, you can't expect student who hate math to have good score on it.

[Wavaryen]

We chose to play because it's fun for us, I also hate the fact that we are forced to learn. I pay this game not to learn the sh** that we don't like, when someone doing the thing they like they will give all their got and work for it. That's why in school we have our favourite subject and we got good mark on it, you can't expect student who hate math to have good score on it.

I agree, and also people telling bards they don't have to use it. So bards would have hardly any thing new to use, and when grouping with this community. The slightest thing sets people off in group play. I mean just look at before the fixes came through, how many did not even want a bard or mch.

I don't like the combat in this game, and I don't like the classes much. When I at last found a style I enjoyed, it pretty much said ok here is some new toys, but oh got to become a caster to use them. So ya I am a little moody about it.

[MisterLucie]

but oh got to become a caster to use them.

Such a ridiculous exaggeration. The cast times are an entire second shorter than the GCD and you still have a few instant procs. WM can even be turned off during heavy movement so you're only suffering a slight DPS loss during fights that would have casters ripping their hair out in frustration.

Bards are still easily the most mobile DPS in the game AND retained all of their support options except for their garbage limit break. Excellent support, excellent mobility, and after a few tweaks most likely excellent damage... and yet an unending cascade of bitter tears because of a nearly insignificant 1.5 second cast time. Unbelievable.