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  1. #711
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Hello

    I did not play BRD during ARR, but I am playing mainly like BRD and MCH since Early Access and Im not enjoying WM, but I dont hate it, I mean, I use WM because my DPS is higher with WM on, just it, I mean, If I get a bit more DPS using WM, Im gonna use it, I would like to avoid casts, but if Im getting more DPS and full movility, BRD will be OP.

    I'm not enjoying WM, I dont like to cast, I preffer to use everything instant...but, a great power requires a great responsibility.

    But, a lot of people is asking a change for WM...is SE gonna change WM? I don't think so...If You don't like WM and You want to do max DPS, You can post your opinion here and be prepare to reroll, I think
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 07-10-2015 at 11:17 AM.

  2. #712
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    If you have to move you can use feint, lvl 2 lancer skill. Insta cast, 2.5 sec recast, 120 potency ( 30 less than heavy shot ) and 80 tp ( pretty steep tbh, heavy shot is 60, but you wont need that often )

    Thought some bards might like to know.
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  3. #713
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    Chloe Grace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    If you have to move you can use feint.
    Burning one of the five cross action slots on a HIGHLY situational melee attack for a ranged dps is just plain stupid.
    If you don't have mantra, even featherfoot is a better option than feint.
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  4. #714
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
    Burning one of the five cross action slots on a HIGHLY situational melee attack for a ranged dps is just plain stupid.
    If you don't have mantra, even featherfoot is a better option than feint.
    Feint is basically a slightly weaker heavy shot. It's not mellee. "highly situational"..ah no, you will need it now tbh. Not using it would be "plain stupid"
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 07-10-2015 at 11:34 AM.

  5. #715
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    Panasync Dilaudid
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Feint is basically a slightly weaker heavy shot. It's not mellee. "highly situational"..ah no, you will need it now tbh. Not using it would be "plain stupid"
    It's only useful if you're constantly messing up casts, for extended periods of movement you shouldn't be in WM, anything else post casting movement would be better.
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  6. #716
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    It's only useful if you're constantly messing up casts, for extended periods of movement you shouldn't be in WM, anything else post casting movement would be better.
    I'd use it when dodgeing those big huge rectangular aoes in A1 as an example if I didn't have a bl proc up. Random movement that will require instant cast interruption and last only 1 second. Like the blms say "always be casting" xD
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  7. #717
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    I'd use it when dodgeing those big huge rectangular aoes in A1 as an example if I didn't have a bl proc up. Random movement that will require instant cast interruption and last only 1 second. Like the blms say "always be casting" xD
    You have plenty of time to cast and move out of it unless you're in a very specific area of a cast already that wouldn't give you time to move before the cast for completion, I don't think the perfect timing happens often enough to say Feint is an absolute requirement.
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  8. #718
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    You have plenty of time to cast and move out of it ...
    ...and when u finish the cast and move u can feint?
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  9. #719
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    ...and when u finish the cast and move u can feint?
    And waste DPS by using a GCD on a weaker skill for more TP? I'm not saying you can't use it, or it can't be a help if you do get interrupted or are on the move during a cast where otherwise you wouldn't drop out of WM, but to say it's necessary, I don't think so.
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  10. #720
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    Rui Ooshima
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    TBH Feint is not a waste. Although it won't be used frequently but there will be times you are caught in big circle AoE where the AoE's cast time is not long enough for you to cast-move like how you do on BLM, you will have to use Feint as a filler like how BLM uses Scathe for that matter. If you move out of that AoE without using a GCD move you are losing DPS.

    TP isn't an issue due to the benefits of IJ.
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