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  1. #11
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    It regens the same mp as Syphon Strike or does a crapload of damage off GCD. There is literally nothing to complain about C&S.
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    Gaius Valerius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    There is literally nothing to complain about C&S.
    That's purely subjective.
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    Kienkarajo Tekura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzorn View Post
    Honestly, it's not a bad skill. It regenerates a nice chunk of mana, and the burst with DA is nothing to sneeze at. But, it should be on something like a 30 sec cooldown instead of 1 min though.
    I agree it should be at least 30 seconds, its great to have some mp back every minute but I just dont find the skill that good to be a lvl 60 skill
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  4. #14
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover1983 View Post
    That's purely subjective.
    No, it's really not.

    We get a skill that is off GCD that can either: A) restore MP (something useful and beneficial to us for MP management), or B) Do a large amount of damage (useful when you don't need to regen MP, free extra damage)

    Objectively, there is nothing at all to complain about C&S.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kienkarajo View Post
    I agree it should be at least 30 seconds, its great to have some mp back every minute but I just dont find the skill that good to be a lvl 60 skill
    I agree. For the lvl 60 skill, it's nothing special. Its nice to get some mp back but for the lvl 60 skill.. its kind of lacking
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    Breakin' my barrs hans, breakin' my barrs

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    Lyrre Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover1983 View Post
    That's purely subjective.
    it has utility when it isn't buffed, and our most powerful move when it is.

    the only thing that could improve it is a marginal potency increased to the unbuffed version. otherwise it's fine.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    No, it's really not.

    We get a skill that is off GCD that can either: A) restore MP (something useful and beneficial to us for MP management), or B) Do a large amount of damage (useful when you don't need to regen MP, free extra damage)

    Objectively, there is nothing at all to complain about C&S.
    I see what you're saying but for THE lvl 60 skill, its nothing special... Come on lets be real. Yes you get some mp back or do dmg but its nothing spectacular being the last ability
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    Breakin' my barrs hans, breakin' my barrs

  8. #18
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    Dererk Titan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    It regens the same mp as Syphon Strike or does a crapload of damage off GCD. There is literally nothing to complain about C&S.

    I'd rather have another defensive CD

    Its not worth a lot of use because you need dark arts to boost its damage but you need to be out of darkside to get mp back but you dont get mp back if your in darkside and you still need dark arts to boost its damage but you need to be in darkside to use dark arts and still dont get mp back and if your useing dark arts which eats up over 1k mp to boost a move that gives back mp.


    Its not worth it I still want another defensive CD.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    I'd rather have another defensive CD
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Kane Shadowbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    No, it's really not.

    Objectively, there is nothing at all to complain about C&S.
    Look at it this way

    The level 60 skill could have been:

    Reduce damage taken by 3% and restores 3% health and mana, off the GCD, 1min CD

    Would there be nothing to complain about? Of course not, the skill is off the GCD and gives you health mana and damage reduction everything a tank wants!

    But being the level 60 skill? That is completely unacceptable since even though its benifical in everyway...its still boring and pretty much inconcequental.

    Extreme example but that is what people are saying here. CS is useful and the burst hit is cool and all...just not something really awe inspiring for a level 60 skill.

    I mean at least make it regen more MP than Syphon Strike...maybe half the MP of syphon strike for each of the 3 hits?
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