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    Stupid Question

    Was just thinking about this and I should really know how to figure this out myself, but:

    What's the total damage reduction on a physical tank buster using Raw Intuition + IB + Vengeance?

    Similarly, what would be the total damage reduction on said tank buster with Sheltron + Sentinel + Rampart?

    I know Sheltron is affected by which type of shield you're using, but let's just assume 20%. I also know that PLD's would be higher even with the lower % shield, but I'm curious how big the difference is.
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    WAR:

    Raw Intuition (20%) x IB (20%) x Vengeance (30%) = 55.2% damage reduction. (223.21% eHP)

    PLD:

    Rampart (20%) x Sentinel (40%) x Sheltron (20%~28%) = 61.6%~65.44% damage reduction. (260.42%~289.35% eHP)

    If you add Thrill of Battle, WAR will win in terms of effective HP against a kite (20%) shield, but loses regardless against a tower (28%+) one.
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    Let's pretend that the buster is doing a whopping, tank destroying 1000 damage. Oh lordy.

    Intuition + Beast + Vengeance: 1000 x 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.7 = 448. 55.2% reduction.

    Shelltron + Sentinel + Rampart: 1000 x 0.8 x 0.6 x 0.8 = 384. 61.6% reduction.

    Edit: Damn, Phoenicia beat me to it. At least the numbers are the same.
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    Alright, thanks both of you. <3

    Interesting that tank mitigation can get as high as 50%+, even 60%+. RI + Vengeance + IB (+ Equilibrium) is also pretty viable vs 60s tank busters, which is interesting. I suppose RI would be better used in conjunction with Thrill + Conv + IB, though. Now if only there were a physical tank buster in Alex to make this worthwhile. ; _ ;
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    While there aren't many opportunities to stack the cooldowns for specific hits, A2 and A3 do give us ample opportunities to rotate the physical cooldowns to achieve some very decent sustained mitigation. So we've got that going for us at least.
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    Just for fun, WAR can chain defensive abilities indefinitely:

    IB (6s) > Infuriate > IB (6s) > Foresight (20s) > IB (6) > RI (20s) > IB (6s) > Vengeance (15s) > IB (6s) > Infuriate > IB (6s) > ToB + Conv (20s) > IB (6s) > Foresight (20s) >> etc.

    I just thought it's fun if you wanna turtle as a WAR for whatever reason lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    Just for fun, WAR can chain defensive abilities indefinitely:

    IB (6s) > Infuriate > IB (6s) > Foresight (20s) > IB (6) > RI (20s) > IB (6s) > Vengeance (15s) > IB (6s) > Infuriate > IB (6s) > ToB + Conv (20s) > IB (6s) > Foresight (20s) >> etc.

    I just thought it's fun if you wanna turtle as a WAR for whatever reason lol.
    That is actually really cool, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    Just for fun, WAR can chain defensive abilities indefinitely:

    IB (6s) > Infuriate > IB (6s) > Foresight (20s) > IB (6) > RI (20s) > IB (6s) > Vengeance (15s) > IB (6s) > Infuriate > IB (6s) > ToB + Conv (20s) > IB (6s) > Foresight (20s) >> etc.

    I just thought it's fun if you wanna turtle as a WAR for whatever reason lol.
    True. Only thing is, everyone will be like, "Why is the WAR's dps low now?". lel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralvenom View Post
    True. Only thing is, everyone will be like, "Why is the WAR's dps low now?". lel.
    Who cares? I said it was for fun if you wanna turtle as a WAR "for whatever reason"! :P
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    Interesting, but stuff in this game is set up with spike damage being the threat, not consistent damage. If the tank buster lands with foresight up and nothing else - {see you again!}
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