The Origins of the Dragonsong War - doubts [HW spoilers]

[Balipu]

I think it may go deeper maybe its more like Nidhogg could have set the while thing up he never seamed accepting of us living along side them.

Probably yes. Funny things is even after I "learned" what we all suspected, that the Elezen started the war I still had a hard time rooting for the dragons because Nidhogg and Hraesvelgr went out of their way to be unlikable.

[Deuxclydion]

The "Brawny Knight," for instance, says that without a duty as a knight, he will accept a duty as a son and follow in his father's footsteps of owning a tavern / inn.

Is that why the Ishgardian tavern is known as the Forgotten Knight? Even the cutscene doesn't remember who it was ...

[Kaiser-Ace]

My Personal Theories here.

The Missing Dragon from Azys Lla is likely the 6th Dragon of the 7 dragons and as of now unnamed. Since Hraesvelgr was the Eagle atop the Yggdrasil, Nidhogg the dragon below it, and Ratatoskr the squirrel that traded messages (Or insults in some writings) between the two then Those three are explicitly Norse Mythology. Where as Bahamut and Tiamat come from Arabic Myth of all places. So Either The missing dragon is named for a third Arabic namesake, A fourth norse name sake (Fafner is about all that's left), or the last two are their own myth reference and their names will be relevant to each other. (Shinryu would be one possibility)

Now, as for Ratatoskr's murder, we know the Dragons have power in their eyes because Hraesvelgr said so him self... But who told Thordin? And more importantly, how did Thordin know that he could take the power for himself rather than it just disappearing when the dragon died? Since the Allagan are officially no more, we only have one group that could have told him, the very same ones that told The Allagans how to Subjugate the Myracydian and Kill Bahamut along with binding Tiamat and Primal Bahamut. That's right, None other than the Ascians, The Paragons of Chaos them selves.

As for Haldryth, We saw what happened to him. His atonement was taking the Eye he stole and defending Ishguard until it killed him. And Even in death the Eye refused to let go of him by making his body remaining eternally after his death. (Wouldn't be suprised if Halrdryth himself is trapped in that Eye along with Nidhogg's essence. In Before Haldryth's spirit saves Eistenian)

And as for Nidhogg and Hrasvelger's respective actions on Ratatoskr's death, I can see Nidhogg going mad over it. They didn't just kill her, They Mutilated her corpse and devoured her Eyes. (And IIRC Nidhogg caught them in the act) so yea Nidhogg has the right to be pissed, Hrasvelgr and Midgardsormr too. I even bet Tiamat would be pretty pissed if she knew what happened to her sister. But where Nidhogg goes into the wrong is that he's consumed by his rage to the point where there's nothing left of him that could be saved or reasoned with. At this point even Midgardsormr was in shock of how twisted and insane his son was. I wouldn't be surprised if there's not actually anything of Nidhogg left but a walking corpse fueled by his hate. Makes me wonder how he was before he went insane. Because yea, he didn't trust the mortals, Midgardsormr didn't either and still doesn't. But there's a big jump from reasonable mistrust to committing genocide.

I'm waiting with baited breath at this point for 3.1 so we can find out what the heck is going on. Because we have a Celestial dragon count of 3 living, two dead, and two MIA when you add their numbers. These Dragons KNOW something. Midgardsormr may even be the only being that predates the 1st Umbral era. (Wouldn't you love to weasel that secret out of him) So we have A LOT to look forward to. So ready your Darksteel foil hats, charge your flame shields, and prep in your theory bunker cause we're going to have a lot of lore bombs going off over the next year.

[WyrahFhurrst]

Well, Midgardsormr did come to Hydaelyn in "a time before time," which likely means before or during the Age of God (the Zeroth Astral Era, so to speak). He hatched his seven eggs, and those dragons spread across the world and propagated the race of dragons. If those last two dragons are together as Tiamat and Bahamut were, they likely share a naming convention, but then again they could have headed in separate directions and they could each be named after a different mythological entity. But we'll be finding out about them in future patches, so...

[Kaiser-Ace]

That meme needs the song "O Fortuna" playing along side it. O_o