Bard 60 Rotation / How to use WM Suggestions?

[Ooshima]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._new_rotation/

If you scroll down the page you'll see a guy giving an interesting opener. Doesn't have wm on from the start. Also provides parses 1k+ in alex turns.

That amount of multi-dot management on A1, I need to git gud and learn too.

Mr Yaah is around this forums too and he's pretty capable of producing some of the highest BRD parses around.

For A2 I've done 1K+ DPS too - multi-dot AoE spam and hope that you kill it fast enough before you ran out of both MP for Paeon and Invigorate/Goad and becomes a sitting duck.

My A3 is about 70DPS behind him but my run was 2 mins longer, puts a bit of dent to my numbers due to transition in phases.

In general his kill time is very good. Both his A1/A4 are 5mins+ runs. One of the grp in my FC also runs them at low 5mins and their BRD also pulls 900 upwards on those turns. Fast kill times = lesser transition/downtimes and you have to be very good with your IJ timing to ensure that they don't keep overclipping or allowing the DoTs to fall off.

I'm doing something very wrong then, coz I'm not breaking 900 solo/no pots/no food/no miseries/no drg >< it's like 870 at best( hive bow,ilvl 177 )

Check if you mistimed your IJ causing overclips or dropping them, one of the main culprits.

Another major reason is the choices you make when you are faced with situations where your OGCDs line up, which probably takes a lot more practice on.

[MrYaah]

That amount of multi-dot management on A1, I need to git gud and learn too.

Mr Yaah isaround this forums too and he's pretty capable of producing some of the highest BRD parses around.

For A2 I've done 1K+ DPS too - multi-dot AoE spam and hope that you kill it fast enough before you ran out of both MP for Paeon and Invigorate/Goad and becomes a sitting duck.

My A3 is about 70DPS behind him but my run was 2 mins longer, puts a bit of dent to my numbers due to transition in phases.

In general his kill time is very good. Both his A1/A4 are 5mins+ runs. One of the grp in my FC also runs them at low 5mins and their BRD also pulls 900 upwards on those turns. Fast kill times = lesser transition/downtimes and you have to be very good with your IJ timing to ensure that they don't keep overclipping or allowing the DoTs to fall off.



Check if you mistimed your IJ causing overclips or dropping them, one of the main culprits.

Another major reason is the choices you make when you are faced with situations where your OGCDs line up, which probably takes a lot more practice on.

I actually manged to beat my parses on most of those turns today. If you feel like tracking how my dps is on all the turns im going to keep this doc pretty up to date through all of alex. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

[Ooshima]

I actually manged to beat my parses on most of those turns today. If you feel like tracking how my dps is on all the turns im going to keep this doc pretty up to date through all of alex. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Cool stuff. Your A1 numbers are insane though. If you don't mind how many sets of dots are you managing? The adds die so fast IDK if it was worth it to apply DoT on them, currently I am just upkeeping on the 2 fat bosses only

What happened to the later A3/A4 runs tho? noticed it is quite different from your peak runs.

[MrYaah]

Cool stuff. Your A1 numbers are insane though. If you don't mind how many sets of dots are you managing? The adds die so fast IDK if it was worth it to apply DoT on them, currently I am just upkeeping on the 2 fat bosses only

What happened to the later A3/A4 runs tho? noticed it is quite different from your peak runs.

for A1 I just do dots on the two bosses, focusing my heavyshots on whichever one the drg is on.

For A3 I've only done like 2 runs on bard not including my very first clear, so I just dont think I've got a good run. As for A4 I think its really rng and depends on if I get sucked up or not. Its a pretty huge dps loss to get sucked up (se plz). These samplesizes are still really small and even on consistent fights you generally see a pretty large range between the good and bad parses.

Also on that last A3 parse they pulled when I was afk and I died halfway through the fight sooooooo. yeah.

[Ooshima]

for A1 I just do dots on the two bosses, focusing my heavyshots on whichever one the drg is on.

For A3 I've only done like 2 runs on bard not including my very first clear, so I just dont think I've got a good run. As for A4 I think its really rng and depends on if I get sucked up or not. Its a pretty huge dps loss to get sucked up (se plz). These samplesizes are still really small and even on consistent fights you generally see a pretty large range between the good and bad parses.

Also on that last A3 parse they pulled when I was afk and I died halfway through the fight sooooooo. yeah.

A4 is pretty annoying for me because for the 3 runs I have done I am ALWAYS the damn DPS that gets sucked inside all the time :/

A3 can be a little chaotic with the +/- and I noticed the adds phase puts a dent to the DPS numbers, prob need more familiarization to optimize output. I think A3 should be capable of 900+ upwards too, just saw an A3 parse where the BRD did 895.

[MrYaah]

A4 is pretty annoying for me because for the 3 runs I have done I am ALWAYS the damn DPS that gets sucked inside all the time :/

A3 can be a little chaotic with the +/- and I noticed the adds phase puts a dent to the DPS numbers, prob need more familiarization to optimize output. I think A3 should be capable of 900+ upwards too, just saw an A3 parse where the BRD did 895.

Yea I managed to parse 895 A3 on mch already and I dont really feel like im a good mch or anything or that it has a particularly big advantage over bard in that fight.

[Ooshima]

Yea I managed to parse 895 A3 on mch already and I dont really feel like im a good mch or anything or that it has a particularly big advantage over bard in that fight.

I have both MCH/BRD too. I'm pretty bad at MCH but nonetheless I think MCH is a much more fluid job compared to BRD and MCH certainly have advantage in movement requirements.

And I do feel that when given the same player with equal mastery of both MCH and BRD job, MCH should produce a slightly better DPS number.