Fending vs. Slaying accessories at this point in the game

[OliviaBadger]

How many PLDs spec str and use str accessories? Do little of the ones I see do it because they are worse than WAR for it (squishier)? Or is it just something some PLDs don't do?

WAR is a more aggressive and damage-based tank than PLD. PLD is the super safe turtle. The playstyle of PLD doesn't lend itself quite as well to STR. PLDs can still come fairly close to WAR dps in sword oath and full STR spec however, but PLDs strength has always been getting hit in the face. You don't bring a PLD for dps, you bring it to get hit in the face

[rawker]

35str/0vit, 2/5 of my acc are slaying. My hp when in party > 15k. The damage diff is significantly less when i equip full fending and vit specced that i cant rotate to either royal authority and goring blade without worrying of dps stealing aggro.

[Xenosan]

I wouldn't be so quick to count PLD out for being the 'turtle' of the love triangle.

14k HP seems to be a safe number for the moment,

I've yet to see real numbers for a PLD proper - But I have seen BISMARK EX a PLD throwing 600+ steady throughout the entire fight - and doing so not really even trying to max deeps - just swapping to Sword Oath when tanking only 1 mob. (full STR right side)

[VargasVermillion]

Well I asked mainly because I did a fractal run with pretty much the same set up as WAR (str 30, 3 slaying accessories. only thing missing was the hive shield) and I seemed more squishy than WAR and yes i did use CDs, might just be my imagination since WAR gets bigger heals than PLD. Point being was I just as easy to heal as a WAR in that scenario?

[OliviaBadger]

I wouldn't be so quick to count PLD out for being the 'turtle' of the love triangle.

14k HP seems to be a safe number for the moment,

I've yet to see real numbers for a PLD proper - But I have seen BISMARK EX a PLD throwing 600+ steady throughout the entire fight - and doing so not really even trying to max deeps - just swapping to Sword Oath when tanking only 1 mob. (full STR right side)

A PLD in sword oath can around 800-850 on a dummy in STR spec in sword oath, so yes they can do good dps, but what I meant more was the reason you see less PLD in STR than WARs is probably due to the fact that people choose to play PLD for their defensive capabilities.

EDIT: I think it may also be to do with your priorities in the role you're on. Since PLD will be designated as MT in most scenarious, their priority is aggro > staying alive > dps. A WAR will take the OT spot whether you have a DRK or a PLD, and their priorities are DPS and debuffs. Of course this "MT tanks the boss while OT smacks it from the side" format was all based on coil. The Alex raids have a different kind of setup, so we may see the meta change

[Swordphobic]

As a healer, aka the one that is in actual charge of your healthbars, I prefer full vit tanks, any extra buffer can be converted in healer dps which is actually quite significant, unlike the meager bonus dps from using slaying accessories. Specially if you are in a pug.

[rawker]

As a healer, aka the one that is in actual charge of your healthbars, I prefer full vit tanks, any extra buffer can be converted in healer dps which is actually quite significant, unlike the meager bonus dps from using slaying accessories. Specially if you are in a pug.

With DPS spikes, that full VIT tank will have to worry of losing aggro. The loss of 1k or 2k hp for equipping a few slaying accessories isn't really game-breaking to the point that healers will spend more time healing than helping to kill things faster. That padding is just there for content that really needs it, aka tank-busters.

[Myric]

With DPS spikes, that full VIT tank will have to worry of losing aggro. The loss of 1k or 2k hp for equipping a few slaying accessories isn't really game-breaking to the point that healers will spend more time healing than helping to kill things faster. That padding is just there for content that really needs it, aka tank-busters.

if someone needs slaying accessories to keep aggro, they have other issues to worry about.

[wonka11]

Question

Parry is a useless stat. but thats not why you're concerned with fending. Its about Main stats that are most important, and both are important in the right situations.

The quick and dirty of it are:

I have three setups when Tanking.

Pure Vit, Mixed, and Pure Str.

You need each to accommodate your party. Some fights that I have to soak tons of damage (Alex 4), (solo tank Ravana Ex) or have little uptime for dps, I'm wearing full vit.

If I'm off tanking depending on the fight (Alex 3) where I need to be both tanky and deal damage, I'll use a Mixed set.

On fights that I can just DPS silly while off tanking and only splitting hits occasionally (Rav Ex), I'm full str.

Its not always about the secondary stats, its about what you need to do to be good.

[Disc]

if someone needs slaying accessories to keep aggro, they have other issues to worry about.

And bad DPS aint one of them.