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  1. #21
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    Wizarus's Avatar
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    Justin Tymes
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    It doesn't really matter what a decent PLD uses to me. Warrior can keep STR, their DPS output is worth me not being able to DPS as much. DRK on the other hand can go straight into VIT and same me at least some the aggrivation of healing them.
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  2. #22
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    OliviaBadger's Avatar
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    Olivia Badger
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    Cerberus
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    It doesn't really matter what a decent PLD uses to me. Warrior can keep STR, their DPS output is worth me not being able to DPS as much. DRK on the other hand can go straight into VIT and same me at least some the aggrivation of healing them.
    This isn't a problem with DRK..it's a problem with new DRKs. The learning curve for proper mitigation is just steeper than that of PLD. It's not quite as simple as "pop some CDs" - Managing MP and using self heals effectively takes some practice. I was probably squishy as hell on my first 60 dungeon because I was still learning the ropes.
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  3. #23
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    Swordphobic's Avatar
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    Gnomeregan
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    Character
    Auto Vector
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    For me its not really about how much mitigation, but how long it takes for his hp to get low enough to warrant me going out of cleric stance to heal him up. That's what those vit accessories give, time.
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  4. #24
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    AriaEnia's Avatar
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    Aria Elunia
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I always use vit asccessories as a tank so healers will feel comfortable healing and dpsing, heck healers have better aoe dps than tanks though.
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  5. #25
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    AniCelestine's Avatar
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    Ani Celestine
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 80
    Imho you shouldn't consider doing proper speed runs (pull as much as you can survive) if you don't have whm + a tank that knows what (s)he's doing. Though imo nothing beats whm+war combo with regen + aoe stun + bloodbathed overpower spam with vengeance on (reflected dmg gives you hp back with bloodbath.
    And warrior full strength ofc.

    As for strength vs vitality. When I used to heal at 50 I preferred tank's to be all str as long as tankbusters were doable with tank cd+ adlo+stoneskin
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    People need to remember that a healer's job isn't to heal HP
    but rather to prevent HP from reaching 0
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  6. #26
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 70
    Having to heal tanks in their level 50 STR accessories in the new dungeons: GREATLY PREFER VIT GEAR. Your DPS is awful pre-60 anyways as a tank, the new mobs hit harder, AST doesn't have the tools to pull you back up, SCH fairies lost scaling and lustrate no longer is OP on WAR, I guess WHM might be ok if they have Assize at that point to supplement mana (and Holy is still OP mitigation).

    Some bosses can hit you for 1/3rd of the tank's HP without warning. There is a lot of AoE. If you have STR accessories on and I have to focus on healing the party up so they don't die to the next AoE, I can't heal you even though you're at 10% of your HP. Your damage sucks. I can see it on my battle log that your abilities are hitting for half of the DPS's. I can see my mana running out because I have to spam Benefic II/Cure II/Lustrate on you so you don't get one-shot when the boss decides to use a powerful attack.

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF YOU WANT TO USE STR GEAR AT LEAST SWITCH TO VIT WHEN WE GET TO A BOSS.
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    Last edited by SuzakuCMX; 07-09-2015 at 02:54 PM.

    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  7. #27
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Leveling up AST, I greatly preferred VIT tanks. The lack of real emergency buttons often meant attempting to DPS was too risky for STR-accessory tanks, and the extra padding (as it were) was greatly welcome. I'm leveling DRK now and I started with 110-pentamelded at 50, though I'm slowly transitioning to VIT, at least for leveling (as I've noticed things getting pretty dicey already with PUG healers).

    Once good crafted accessories are available, I foresee going hybrid again, though, if the accessories work like they used to.
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  8. #28
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    Drago Xhula
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    prior to 3.0 i didn't care one whit whether the tank used vit or str either way they had about the same over all defense with the parry scaling to str, after 3.0 i would much prefer to heal someone using vit accessory's than str cause they no longer have that parry scaling. (though why sqex decided to do this i will never know and will likely always hate them for...)
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  9. #29
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    GideonHighmourn's Avatar
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    Gideon Highmourn
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 74
    VIT for now. Maybe once gear outpaces content more considerably, I'll prefer STR because it won't make much of a difference.

    However, I can tell the difference between a STR and VIT tank easily at the moment. While healing a VIT tank I can hit over 500+ DPS on SCH; while healing a STR tank I'm lucky to hit 300 DPS on SCH.

    Even more apparent while healing with AST.
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  10. #30
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Let's draw the lines here. When you mean STR tanks, do you mean a tank that is 100% str specced? 100% vit for the other one?
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