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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakell View Post
    Hmm - So HoT's are still better than shields? Okays :3
    I just feel like i'm having more trouble than when on Scholar and I know part of it is a new class and all - but I do find myself willing the dps to kill faster more often these days xDD
    You need to be wary though when using HoT on big pulls though because if you "buff" them before they start pulling, all the mobs will rush to you because you technically healed the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    You need to be wary though when using HoT on big pulls though because if you "buff" them before they start pulling, all the mobs will rush to you because you technically healed the tank.
    AST regens are front-loaded so it's not even a technicality. You cast aspected (diurnal) benefic, you heal for >1k hp and then the HoT starts.

    I only did a small amount of testing but I quickly found HoTs to be more helpful than AST shields for stuff like this, or at least with how I was playing it. If someone gives Nocturnal Sect a more thorough test in these sort of near-wipe situations, please share your experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    AST regens are front-loaded so it's not even a technicality. You cast aspected (diurnal) benefic, you heal for >1k hp and then the HoT starts.

    I only did a small amount of testing but I quickly found HoTs to be more helpful than AST shields for stuff like this, or at least with how I was playing it. If someone gives Nocturnal Sect a more thorough test in these sort of near-wipe situations, please share your experiences.
    Well my experience in speed runs is if I use regen before the tanks starts pulling the mobs stop catching the tank and start attack me. I'm starting to use Noct for trash mobs now since I'm used to SCH and i'll let you know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well my experience in speed runs is if I use regen before the tanks starts pulling the mobs stop catching the tank and start attack me. I'm starting to use Noct for trash mobs now since I'm used to SCH and i'll let you know how it goes.
    Well that's why you never use a Regen until after a tank is finished pulling. Wait until he's stopped and has aggro on everything, then pop the Regen and the extra healing is nice alongside Benefic spam. I usually just make sure they have a Stoneskin up before they pull and unless they over pull or are undergeared it should be fine.

    But there's something about that one big pull near the start of AKHM that no matter what healer I'm playing on, I always get tanks that can't live through the entire thing. Even on my WHM with Divine Seal up. I think it has something to do with the fact that that 2nd pull is iffy if the tank isn't perfect and most end up pulling the entire hallway so keeping them alive through the start of it is very difficult. That paired with the fact that in Duty Finder, you're playing with ilevel 110, so you don't overgear that dungeon by all that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
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    Yea, I'm used to being SCH so I would galvanize tank before he started so I didn't as much HP to restore when the fight actually starts, since SCH doesn't have that healing oomph that WHM has. Regardless it's clear Noct needs some love.
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