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  1. #41
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    dragoelete's Avatar
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    Drago Xhula
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilheim View Post
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    fray always has yellow eyes... so thats not what gives the "tell" since my char has blue/red eyes...
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  2. #42
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    FrejyaAthenes's Avatar
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nilheim View Post
    The first thing I noticed about Fray was that his eyes were exactly like mine (quite distinctive which is why it hit me). I don't know if that was the same for everyone (I have pale yellow eyes) or not but I started suspecting Fray didn't exist and we were just going batshit crazy after the level 35 quest. It became really obvious that Fray is you (I think he's just not there at all and it's your fucked up mind imagining him being there) and that his lines are what you are saying after that quest with that asshole merchant in Moraby ("I should've let you all drown").
    Much like our name connection, that was pure serendipity. And I don't mean the goldsmith.
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  3. #43
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    Rannie's Avatar
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Faerie
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    It was awesome and from the way it seemed with Isembard he looked directly at Fray when he made the comment about the pilgrims being idiots and going out with no weapons...

    Btw, Please don't tell me I was the only one who started crying after the lvl 50 quest... I just finished about an hour ago or so and I still want to cry...
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  4. #44
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    Cilia's Avatar
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Btw, Please don't tell me I was the only one who started crying after the lvl 50 quest... I just finished about an hour ago or so and I still want to cry...
    I didn't cry. It's not so much sad as it is... I don't know, enlightening. What's sad is

    Haurchefant's death, and to a lesser extent Ysayle's death and Estinien's enslavement


    during the MSQ.

    The DRK 30-50 quest does touch on some more complex issues of psychology, though. It shows that your shadow isn't just a mass of hate and rage, it's everything you deny about yourself: both the hate and rage born of betrayal as well as the pain and sorrow of loss. Your shadow seems genuinely sad you're going to continue to force yourself to bear the pain and sorrow that comes with honoring your obligations, even if you do so purely because you choose to.

    If only I had thought to put on I'll Face Myself (Battle) during the fight...

    The 50-60 quest isn't as introspective or personal as the 30-50 one was. It's still pretty good and raises questions about the power of darkness though.
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

  5. #45
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Yeah, I'm honestly still trying to figure out why it made me cry .... i think i'll have to try to figure it out
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  6. #46
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    dragoelete's Avatar
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    Drago Xhula
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    hopefully if they increase the level cap in the next xpack again they will have the shadow return to help you learn more ability's and dive deeper into the darkness.
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  7. #47
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    Cilia's Avatar
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    I think it's because the post-battle scene is incredibly cathartic for people who understand the shadow. All too often the heroes are portrayed as unflappable, stoic badasses who can endure anything. We wear the mask of one, but deep down that's not who we are.

    On the surface you're still the unflappable, stoic badass, but beneath the mask you're a mess of pain, anger, and sorrow from the betrayals and lack of gratitude from people. You never get a moment to live for yourself, always fighting others' battles because they can't or won't, and you absolutely hate it. It makes your darkness visible instead of keeping it buried. It humanizes the Warrior of Light, in other words.
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    Last edited by Cilia; 07-08-2015 at 10:19 AM.
    Trpimir Ratyasch's Way Status (7.4 - End)
    [ ]LOST [ ]NOT LOST [X]MASS PRODUCING SHIT FOR THE MOON BUNNIES
    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

  8. #48
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    Rannie Lfey
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    in other words it made me a huge empathic mess
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  9. #49
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    Kharagan Dotharl
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    The DRK quests give your WoL a personality instead of just being the stoic hero the world sees. But it's sad in the sense that it shows the personal cost of that choice, yet it is still willingly made. Even your shadow seems to accept it, which shows more then anything you arnt evil. Just weary and tired of being the chosen one.
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  10. #50
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    Malakaz Vosoma
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
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    Agreed I liked the fact that your dark side was not mwhahahaha kind of evil it was more angry that everyone keeps forcing their issue's on you and as Cilia said always fighting because other's can't or won't or even they won't show gratitude after you move the heaven and earth for them. It wanted to "free" you of obligations now how your darkside would go about this after taking the "reins" that's another story all together. The 50-60 quest does make me wonder where our power actually comes from because every time we learn a skill unlike other classes the wording changes. Like one of them is "from the abyss you hear a whisper....." Sid mentions we use the power of the abyss is it the void? I mean we can feed on negative emotions and are stronger for it.

    Is the abyss another word for the void? Just like Chakra is aether?
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