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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    That's the problem with the fact we have different classifications of loot being weighted equally without regards for composition. You see 'endless supplies of melee gear' becasue NIN, MNK, and DRG are three different armor sets out of seven possible. Whereas healer gear is 1/7. (Technically, every class has 1/7 odds right now of getting what's actually relevant to them, but argh)
    Right. I understand it's just true RNG and my experiences are just apophenia and such. But even so, the new loot system addresses it... it basically puts a severe limiter on how much RNG can screw you, and a run with friends/static eliminates even that.

    Although I'm not sure why all melee need to have their own gear sets, while DoM and tanks... and now brds/mch, share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zata View Post
    So... do you like the new loot sistem?...
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Right. I understand it's just true RNG and my experiences are just apophenia and such. But even so, the new loot system addresses it... it basically puts a severe limiter on how much RNG can screw you, and a run with friends/static eliminates even that.
    Basically this. I'm sure someone's going to run into frustration trying to get their body piece tokens or something but this straight up removes a lot of the competition and RNG-related irritation. Not all of it, but enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    as a mage (healer/caster) the robes are uninspired like most robes
    I agree!
    I will do them all once so I have them cleared but will probably not go for the gear cause they are awful. Too many robes in this new expansion imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    I agree!
    I will do them all once so I have them cleared but will probably not go for the gear cause they are awful. Too many robes in this new expansion imo
    Not to mention skirts kilts. Wish we had a little more variety...

    Could we get some healer gear that looks, I don't know, like this or something?

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    I am amazed to see all the post whining and complaining about the new loot system, considering there is a whole week to get the tokens before next reset, and how each item has their unique token (not the same token for all) and each player can only get 1 token per turn. I truly don't see why people are complaining so much, not even 24h has passed since the raid is out and everyone wants to have all tokens for their weekly allowance.

    I assume they preferred the old system where some unlucky player could be weeks in a row without getting 1 single drop.

    Finally a fair system, no complains from my side, some people just need to learn to be more patient.
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  6. #16
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Not to mention skirts kilts. Wish we had a little more variety...

    Could we get some healer gear that looks, I don't know, like this or something?

    Yeah, what's most baffling is that the Law caster/healer gear has a body piece that's a robe ... yet the legs piece is a skirt? You're basically wearing a skirt underneath a skirt.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Yeah, what's most baffling is that the Law caster/healer gear has a body piece that's a robe ... yet the legs piece is a skirt? You're basically wearing a skirt underneath a skirt.
    We~ell.... I actually created a thread asking for hakama once, thinking it would go well with yukata, so I can't really complain on that count. xD I was kinda hoping for the other style of hakama but, oh well.

    But, the Sharlayan Preceptor set? It has this kind of late 1800s/early 1900s feel to it and I really like it. But... why a "longkilt"? A set of dapper trousers would have gone with it so perfectly...
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    People do realize it's not much different? Bad luck on drops or rolls is still bad luck on drops or rolls. Prior to this you may not see your item drop but likewise after this you may never win a roll on what does drop. Statistics might dictate you have a better chance but reality is not quite so fortunate as to always follow statistical norms and your luck might still keep you farming for just as long or even what might feel like forever just to win a single roll on something unlike for example the new EX modes which guarantee a token for each win that builds up in case of seriously bad luck. Personally I am not going to get my knickers in a twist over RNG is RNG just yet as it still applies equally to the new system as did with the old but I do dislike people thinking everything will be hills alive with sound of music based on Alexander's loot system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    People do realize it's not much different? Bad luck on drops or rolls is still bad luck on drops or rolls. Prior to this you may not see your item drop but likewise after this you may never win a roll on what does drop. Maths might dictate you have a better chance but reality is not quite so fortunate as to always follow statistical norms and your luck might still keep you farming for just as long or even forever just to win a single roll on something unlike for example the new EX modes which guarantee a token for each win that builds up in case of seriously bad luck.
    Yes but with a run of friends/FCmates/static etc, in this new system you're guaranteed a drop. In the old system, you can farm with fully geared friends that have all pieces all night and you still might never see the piece you're looking for.

    With pugs/DF, your chances are at least much improved.
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    snip
    If you join a farm party you could run it 4 times (at best, maybe a little more if no one needs some tokens), and then everyone would get their token. Still very much doable without a static.
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