Summing Method Confirmed, Man can Become gods. (Mild Post-HW Spoilers)

[Kaiser-Ace]

So, I've worked on my summoning theories for a while and since HW came out and dropped several lore bombs on Primals I can now form a true composite theory on summoning and summoning methods. Here goes nothing <Inhales>

Summoning Method One: The Ascian Method.

Through a mass group of followers using aether as a catalyst (Be it crystal or otherwise) a collective image of the summoned being can be called forth and maintained so long as aether supplies remain. How ever the summoned being, as with all methods, is merely a figment of the collective thoughts of the worshipers thus leading to an extremely unstable personality in some cases.

Summoning Method Two: The Allagan Method

A man made form of summoning conceived by the Allagan Empire to combat the Ascian Method. By using the lone Summoner's Aether, as well as a fragment of a defeated primal's elemental essence, then an Aetheric Construct known as an Egi can be summon bearing a resemblance in both appearance and abilities to the original primal. Also Due to it being a construct of Archanima, The Egi has a Programing based on the Archanimic symbols and formulas rather than any set personality. These formulas can also be altered by the Summoner in order to manipulate the Egi's Programing at will.

Summoning Method Three: The Incarnate Summon

The First Known User of this method being Louisoix Leveilleur, The Incarnate method is by far the most dangerous of the three currently discovered methods. Similar to the Ascian Method, through the use of aether one can change their own form into a idolized God like form, and effectively become a primal themselves.

Other Known Practitioners have Been Lady Ysayle Iceheart, and Thorden VII with the accompaniment of The Heaven's Ward. All of Which have made on danger blatantly clear, Just as primals and egis disappear into the aetheric stream, If one using the Incarnate Summoning Method is killed while in primal form their mortal body will disappear into the Aetheric Lifestream along with their primal form. This side effect has proven to be 100% constant as Louisoix, Ysayle, Thorden VII, and the 12 Heaven's Ward all disappeared into aether like the primals they became upon their deaths.

Opening the floor to Thought, Comments, and Questions. Per usual feel free to poke and prod as needed.

[Frederick22]

Not Asayle. The echo protects her.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Not Asayle. The echo protects her.

From what? The Incanate Method dosnt temper the user it makes them the prim. And Lady Iceheart became the primal Shiva, echo or no echo.

Echo just makes you immune to tempering, it doesnt make you incapable of using any of the summoning methods.

[Frederick22]

From what? The Incanate Method dosnt temper the user it makes them the prim. And Lady Iceheart became the primal Shiva, echo or no echo.

Echo just makes you immune to tempering, it doesnt make you incapable of using any of the summoning methods.

You said that you can summon a primal and become its vessle, and by that way you will gain the primals's power and control. But you also said that will required a sacrifice, if the primal was destroy, its vessel will be destroy too. Well that didmt happen to Ysayle. She was beat couple times and she still survive, the echo protects her someway.
The archobishop istead, after we deafeated him, he dissaped into aether.

[Kaiser-Ace]

You said that you can summon a primal and become its vessle, and by that way you will gain the primals's power and control. But you also said that will required a sacrifice, if the primal was destroy, its vessel will be destroy too. Well that didmt happen to Ysayle. She was beat couple times and she still survive, the echo protects her someway.
The archobishop istead, after we deafeated him, he dissaped into aether.

I said Killed, we defeated her twice and she was defeated by Ravana in the MSQ, but The Garlen Warship killed her. And when it did the same thing happened to her as Louisoix, she turned into Aether and Disappeared.

[WyrahFhurrst]

Summoning Method Two: The Allagan Method

A man made form of summoning conceived by the Allagan Empire to combat the Ascian Method. By using the lone Summoner's Aether, as well as a fragment of a defeated primal's elemental essence, then an Aetheric Construct known as an Egi can be summon bearing a resemblance in both appearance and abilities to the original primal. Also Due to it being a construct of Archanima, The Egi has a Programing based on the Archanimic symbols and formulas rather than any set personality. These formulas can also be altered by the Summoner in order to manipulate the Egi's Programing at will.

That's not how Summoners work, according to Koji. Summoners summon a fraction of their own soul in the image of the primal, and killing a primal gives them the knowledge of the aether and shape they would need to give to their soul in order to make the Egi. It's not a true method of summoning, as it doesn't make a Primal, and therefore does not drain the world of its aether, nor does it require worship.

[Kaiser-Ace]

That's not how Summoners work, according to Koji. Summoners summon a fraction of their own soul in the image of the primal, and killing a primal gives them the knowledge of the aether and shape they would need to give to their soul in order to make the Egi. It's not a true method of summoning, as it doesn't make a Primal, and therefore does not drain the world of its aether, nor does it require worship.

That's where the Archanima comes in. The Archanima is what shapes that Soul Fragment via Aether into an Egi.

The whole point of the Allagan method to to summon WITH OUT using a primal. You cant very well fight a primal with a primal. That'd drain the land faster. The Allagan Method was the counter to the Ascian Method. No worship, out side aether source, or land draining required.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Also, at this point we know good and well that Primals are in fact extremely powerful Aetheric constructs not much different than Carbuncles and Egis in concept.

So some of the established head cannon about them being Non-Corporeal Gods given form needs to be let go.

Primals, Carbuncles, and Egis are are made via Aether using the Summoner(s) thoughts as the proverbial chisel to shape the Aether being manipulated.

Prayer=Thought

So weather it be faith like The Beast Tribes and Iceheart or intentional choosing Like Louisoix and Thorden all Primals are made in the form of a Mental Image. Same as Carbuncles and Egis. If thought wasn't part of the Egi process how would you control which egi you summoned? You do so by taking that fragment and shaping it with the image of the Egi you want at that moment. After all it'd suck to need the Titan-Egi asap and Ifrit-Egi show up instead.

[Somewarlock84]

So if one was to say... Want to become the Primal of Pumpkins they would just need enough aether and use on them self to become the Incarnation of Pumpkins basically.

[Kaiser-Ace]

So if one was to say... Want to become the Primal of Pumpkins they would just need enough aether and use on them self to become the Incarnation of Pumpkins basically.

Exactly. That's really all it'd take. Using Method 3, You'd take the appearance of what ever you imagined the "King of Pumpkins" would look like.