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  1. #11
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    @OP - do you ever stop complaining or ranting?

    To quote the patch notes

    You can only receive one item per floor each week.
    Which means you can get one token per floor. This is four tokens in total.

    F1 - Waist/Accessory/Feet Token
    F2 - Head/Feet Token
    F3 - Head/Hands/Leg Tokens
    F4 - Chest/Hands/Leg Token

    In the first week you can get an i190 feet and i190 hand pieces because you get two feet tokens @ F1 and F2 and two hand tokens @ F3 and F4. Or start saving up for chest and leg tokens on F4 and F3 respectively while getting a feet piece from F1 and F2.

    Etc etc.

    This is still better than say, waiting for 10-12 weeks for the one piece of BiS gear you need to drop from Coil/CT/Alex - though I will admit I was hoping for both a loot system AND a token system at the same time (with both on the same timer). Maybe that'll happen for Savage.
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    Izzy Pollux
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    sounds too easy if you ask me. I do like guaranteed loot assuming you succeed at completing the content after a certain amount of time.

    I never did ARR endgame, but if it was any easier than what I am understanding here then I'm glad I didn't bother.
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  3. #13
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    Deucalion Promethuson
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    I've been reading the posts on here all morning, and even the patch notes, and the system still seems a tad confusing to me; but that may be because it's still new and there's a lot of conflicting information out there. Seems to be one of those things where you have to run it before it's easy to understand really. Looking forward to giving it a try eventually though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeCass View Post
    I've been reading the posts on here all morning, and even the patch notes, and the system still seems a tad confusing to me; but that may be because it's still new and there's a lot of conflicting information out there. Seems to be one of those things where you have to run it before it's easy to understand really. Looking forward to giving it a try eventually though!
    Really? From what I gather it is overly simple. You run a dungeon and get tokens. You exchange tokens for a piece of gear.

    I guess people are complaining because you are limited to like 4 tokens a week. As in 1 token per boss.
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    Last edited by IzzyData; 07-08-2015 at 01:46 AM.

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    Zappa Dattic
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I personally would have preferred full on RNG with loot lockout only when you obtain an item. This current system feels like balancing spinning plates.
    Oh that's your educated opinion on the loot system that I just had to explain to you because you completely misinterpreted it at every possible step?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
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    you need to roll against 7 other ppl, if you're doing it in PF. so you can spend a long time trying to get anything.

    also in a month we'll have some piece of esoteric gear, and alexander savage stuff, at which point alexander normal stuff...will not matter anymore, before you even get it.
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    Cole Evyx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Oh that's your educated opinion on the loot system that I just had to explain to you because you completely misinterpreted it at every possible step?
    Please don't be sassy/rude, it leaves us both with a sour taste in our mouths.

    I appreciate you explaining it, I didn't understand how it worked because there is so muchmisinformation going around on it.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyData View Post
    Really? From what I gather it is overly simple. You run a dungeon and get tokens. You exchange tokens for a piece of gear.

    That is apparently the only way to obtain the current best gear which I guess is why people are complaining because you are limited to like 4 tokens a week. As in 1 token per boss.
    If that's the case, that does seems insanely simple. I wonder why everyone is freaking out? If it's the best gear in the game (currently), shouldn't it make sense that it's a challenge to obtain, whether it's from RNG or difficult fights?
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    Last edited by CodeCass; 07-08-2015 at 01:49 AM.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    Please don't be sassy/rude, it leaves us both with a sour taste in our mouths.

    I appreciate you explaining it, I didn't understand how it worked because there is so muchmisinformation going around on it.
    You're welcome. But you still don't have much of a basis to make any kind of judgement, except that it sounds like something you might not like. No offense, but why should anyone care that you might not like a system that you've never tried? If you come back with an analytical argument with some pros/cons I might listen, but right now it's like a blind man arguing that his favorite color is the best color.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    you need to roll against 7 other ppl, if you're doing it in PF. so you can spend a long time trying to get anything.

    also in a month we'll have some piece of esoteric gear, and alexander savage stuff, at which point alexander normal stuff...will not matter anymore, before you even get it.
    The first time, yeah. Then you clear it again and roll against 6 people, etc. The fights are like 10-15 minutes each and pretty easy. If you're doing a pf group then it's probably a farm. If you're group hopping for each kill, then that's kinda your own fault. You don't need a static. There's a huge middle ground that you're intentionally ignoring in order to turn this into something it's not.
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    Echo Sindria
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeCass View Post
    If that's the case, that does seems insanely simple. I wonder why everyone is freaking out? If it's the best gear in the game (currently), shouldn't it make sense that it's a challenge to obtain, whether it's from RNG or difficult fights?
    The only difficult fight is the last one, and that is only due to the sheer amount of constant damage that goes out everywhere, ontop of a tank buster in the final phase that hits you like a nuke 3 or 4 times. (I didn't count, all I know was I've died a few times just instantly)

    The aggravation with obtaining the gear comes in when you have to roll against 7 other people.
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