Battle needs to be more dynamic as well

[Synthesis]

having autoattack is nice, people wanted it. So I am ok with that. Anyway its too slow.
I am not talking for myself now but for a friend who bought a game and tried it. He managed to rank 12 and quitted the game. When I asked why he gave up so fast, he told me that all he has got is 8 skills which do the same and that waiting for slow-increasing TP with auto-attack is boring.

From that I assume pherphaps auto-attack cooldown is too much. I know pressing 1 key before update made chara to attack quickly so there wasnt problem with waiting, delay or TPs.

I play ARC so I dont care much about that since I am getting all quickly but I am talking for a friend a bit.

edit : he also stated "This is not FFXI" but lol, that aside

[RemVye]

Well, I don't think 30 minutes of playing the game is enough to say anything bad. All MMO's that I've played are the same way early on... WoW you basically had 2 maybe 3 skills to use... same with RIFT... same with DCUO... you can't expect an entire set of skills in the first 30 minutes of playing.

If they increase Auto-Attack anymore they would need to decrease the damage you deal else things will die too quickly. I'm not looking for a WoW clone so I like the pace of battle right now, I have just enough things to keep me occupied between AA.

When you get higher level, you have more skills obviously and skills from other classes at your disposal. Giving you more options for what you want to use and do. In WoW, you get higher level and just SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM (the same 5-6 buttons) try to use as many skills as you can until your finger falls off. I don't want another game where it's like this.

Edit: WoW as a Destro Lock in Wotlk (Immo - Corrup - Conflag - Cbolt Incin Incin) repeat. That's all you would really do... each xpac turned that game into bigger and bigger doodoo. I would hate to see FFXIV turn into that garbage.

EDIT 2: It's funny that in this post you said "im speaking for my friend" but another post you stated the exact same thing :
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...073#post301073

Maybe you should give WoW a try, not trying to sound like a d-bag but from the sounds of what you want it would fit right in.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Well, I don't think 30 minutes of playing the game is enough to say anything bad. All MMO's that I've played are the same way early on... WoW you basically had 2 maybe 3 skills to use... same with RIFT... same with DCUO... you can't expect an entire set of skills in the first 30 minutes of playing.

If they increase Auto-Attack anymore they would need to decrease the damage you deal else things will die too quickly. I'm not looking for a WoW clone so I like the pace of battle right now, I have just enough things to keep me occupied between AA.

When you get higher level, you have more skills obviously and skills from other classes at your disposal. Giving you more options for what you want to use and do. In WoW, you get higher level and just SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM try to use as many skills as you can until your finger falls off. I don't want another game where it's like this.

This, having 8 skills at level 12 is kinda good I find, your friend might think they all did the same but I don't think it is true, they are all different skills. Plus there are some skills that do not require any TP to use, so you can use that on top of AA if you wish.

You need to take into consideration that the more you level, the more skills you can use that doesn't need TP (more if you cross-class) plus skills that you can buy with guild marks.

Then you have to think of a long term use of this system with multi-hit weapons, faster delay weapons, haste spells and haste-like abilities. If they speed it up right now, there will be no place for those.

The speed it fine right now, people should get over it already and think of a bigger picture.

Your friend can like or not the game, but if this is the reason he gave you, then he just was not interested from the start imo.

[RemVye]

This, having 8 skills at level 12 is kinda good I find, your friend might think they all did the same but I don't think it is true, they are all different skills. Plus there are some skills that do not require any TP to use, so you can use that on top of AA if you wish.

You need to take into consideration that the more you level, the more skills you can use that doesn't need TP (more if you cross-class) plus skills that you can buy with guild marks.

Then you have to think of a long term use of this system with multi-hit weapons, faster delay weapons, haste spells and haste-like abilities. If they speed it up right now, there will be no place for those.

The speed it fine right now, people should get over it already and think of a bigger picture.

Your friend can like or not the game, but if this is the reason he gave you, then he just was not interested from the start imo.

GAME. SET. MATCH.

I'm going to make an assumption that he came into FFXIV thinking 'this is going to be FFXI' - but it's not. FFXIV is about as much like FFXI as RIFT is like WoW... they are similar but not the same exact game.

EDIT: Also if he got all classes to level 12, he would have 8 x 7 = 56 skills to choose from. Granted not all abilities/skills transfer across classes but still he would have 40+