For anyone who won't see it, buffs to MCH not incoming

[Haxetc]

First thing in order is GB and WM need to be a worthwhile stance, not a joke. After that we can look at other numbers, I hope its not only WM getting buffed....

Yea, GB needs a buff...right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuIwAit_yCw

[Odowla]

nah man the class is total garbage
/s

seriously though, thaanks for proving what i've been saying all along +1

[RyuDragnier]

Why is there even a need to bring parsers into play here?

Everyone who has done any content with a BRD/MCH compared to any other DPS classes can tell that things die significantly slower.

With such a large pool of players and data, it's hard to believe ALL BRD/MCH players are garbage and ALL other DPS class players are amazing.

All I can say is, prepare for people to leave/instant vote dismiss once Rav/Bis EX hits DF because chances are you'll run into a full BRD/MCH party at least once.

I've partied with a few MCH who pull out some serious deeps. Not even joking, had a run with a MCH while I was running MNK, and things were dying pretty quickly. A MCH played well is pretty powerful...however they're like BRDs, plagued by the many bads who play the job.

[Airget]

Well, i'll probably try to level up a MCH and check if SE is right or not.

This is what I"ve decided to do to, it made me curious to see if maybe players just aren't hitting the right concept with it.

Honestly at 30 and what's handed to us at the start it feels like it should come up strong, but time will tell if it is or not.

[ArtificialxSky]

This thread is done, and Haxetc is a hero. RIP MCH whiner threads.

Oh AND MCH got a buff, LOL. No excuses now.

[Mclyde]

however they're like BRDs, plagued by the many bads who play the job.

And so it is for all 3 new jobs.

Badly frustrated not to be able to manage the class.

[Sindri_Myr]

I have never kicked nor pro-voted a mechanist to be dismissed from my group.
OP, you're a whiner! Emo players shouldn't play such classes, because they will never understand them.
Go lvl your facepalm Ninja and rid us of your stupidity. Bye

[Allyrion]

I have never kicked nor pro-voted a mechanist to be dismissed from my group.
OP, you're a whiner! Emo players shouldn't play such classes, because they will never understand them.
Go lvl your facepalm Ninja and rid us of your stupidity. Bye

Well, your mom is a face palm. (So clever)
Also, don't send him to us. We have enough of that.

[KeluBehemoth]

OMG loving the MCH buffs. Very nice overall DPS increase.

[RiceisNice]

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1. Exactly this. And even then, the increase was incredibly minuscule (I'm talking 1-3%), on a dummy parse. This means using blanks off cooldowns and being stationary the entire time.

2+3 This is mostly resolved with 3.01 now that GB/WM is an instant cast. If they wanted it to be soemthing that we should toggle because we know the fight allows for it on a phase, it should've been instant with a cooldown timer to punish reckless swapping (like cleric stance)

4. MCH regen is the same as bard, and I'd vouch that it's a bit more versatile when it comes to getting it out inbetween downtime phases and keeping your healers at optimal levels. Bards on the other hand, can reserve battle voice for those moments where they need a sudden jump in mp/tp (such as wipes or number crunching). MCH can do the same, bt not without sacrificing dps by holding off hypercharge (which is one of their dps cooldowns)

Previously, MCHs would have to bust their asses and still fall a bit short of current dps. GB and abilties associated with it really had no place in current meta. With 3.01 though, its probably changed to favor full time GB when you can.

Yea, GB needs a buff...right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuIwAit_yCw

What is this video trying to prove? I'm hovering around the same numbers with GB toggling at the same points as the fight as you, falling behind as the fight prolongs beyond the first swift liberation. It was one of the only fights where GB Toggling was feasible for burst because of the amount of downtime, but outside of that, full-time GB before the change wasn't worth holding onto if you couldn't get off every single blanks.