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    Quote Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall View Post
    Pray tell, how is having extra bag space pay to win. Are you able to down bosses better because of it? Are you able to make 10m gil off the MB in 5 minutes because of it? Or is it just because you don't know how to organize and keep things separated that you are really angry at? You do NOT have to level every crafting profession at once, you do NOT have to level every DoM or DoW at once. Just because 300+ bag slots is not enough for you to keep things maintained is not a reason to call it "pay to win" Winning implies you are able to beat something in game that people that have not paid the money are not able to do as easy which is not the case.
    The reasoning for P2W has been explained multiple times in this thread. Inventory space is a minor part of it, its mostly being able to make gill off ventures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radial View Post
    The reasoning for P2W has been explained multiple times in this thread. Inventory space is a minor part of it, its mostly being able to make gill off ventures.
    And that argument failed hard, as explained multiple times on this thread.

    Especially in HW where the best melded penta gear comes in about 4th place. Alexander gear > Law with Seals Gear > Law Gear > Crafted gear (unless its that one i160 body piece then you get 3rd place). Pay to slowly place 4th after everyone else already came in 1st...yay... How could you stoop so low SE? P2W that doesn't win?

    Ventures are a nice addition whom's minimal advantage could easily be wiped out by someone who knows how to make gil proper. This is pay to get a such a minimal advantage in terms of only currency that could easily be made up by someone who plays CUL for 20 more minutes a day, dont kid yourself.
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    Last edited by moonflyer; 07-09-2015 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonflyer View Post
    And that argument failed hard, as explained multiple times on this thread.

    Especially in HW where the best melded penta gear comes in about 4th place. Alexander gear > Law with Seals Gear > Law Gear > Crafted gear (unless its that one i160 body piece then you get 3rd place). Pay to slowly place 4th after everyone else already came in 1st...yay... How could you stoop so low SE? P2W that doesn't win?

    Ventures are a nice addition whom's minimal advantage could easily be wiped out by someone who knows how to make gil proper. This is pay to get a such a minimal advantage in terms of only currency that could easily be made up by someone who plays CUL for 20 more minutes a day, dont kid yourself.
    Haven't seen anyone counter that argument so no it hasn't "failed hard" the main point isn't gear, its gill, and you obviously don't know what your talking about with ventures and gill as farming chimera manes is millions and millions of gill per day for no effort except spending a few ventures. (and buying 8 retainers with RL cash)
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