New glamour dress on a male (art)

[Terrini]

Massterchef, by that same logic, the Lightning outfit is NOTHING like the Snow outfit. That doesn't make them any less a matched set of male/female exclusive gear. People may WANT them on the other sex, but no one is posting regular threads about it BECAUSE they're equal. Each are exclusive to one sex and they're released with the same theme.

The final straw of this thread is that sure the Thavnairian sets are different, but they were advertised as male and female locked gear when it's unisex and female locked gear. This is not acceptable.

Reference for "Equivalent" gear sets

[Massterchef]

So you mean you want talisman that show your bare chest or what?

No.

The final straw of this thread is that sure the Thavnairian sets are different, but they were advertised as male and female locked gear when it's unisex and female locked gear. This is not acceptable.

Then you should advocate for a male-specific thavnarian set instead of making this an issue about one of the sets being unisex.

[Terrini]

That's precisely what the whole thread is about. The first post has suggestions on different possibilities. One of those possibilities is a straight conversion, others are just jewelry for the male version.

[Fenral]

Then you should advocate for a male-specific thavnarian set instead of making this an issue about one of the sets being unisex.

/facepalm

You haven't been reading this thread at all, have you?

[Hypie]

I keep hearing a lot about how dressing in traditionally female garb is basically a taboo or gross in the real world.

Guess what? This isn't the real world!

Guess what. They use the No-No of the Real World. (taboo is a bit far fetched).

[Massterchef]

That's precisely what the whole thread is about. The first post has suggestions on different possibilities. One of those possibilities is a straight conversion, others are just jewelry for the male version.

Most the thread is about conversion of the current female specific gear to unisex to accommodate cross-dressing.

Male specific gear is actually designed for males. Pretty much instead of trying to modify existing gear that is already gender specific, advocate for new gear.

[sosowie]

LOL, wow. Those real world developers are the one's who have chosen not to allow males to wear dresses in game. Is that really that hard to understand?

Geesh... it's called final FANTASY for goodness sake.

[GalkaBikini]

Geesh... it's called final FANTASY for goodness sake.

It's called Final Fantasy because Squaresoft was going bankrupt and the game they were making was their final attempt before crashing. It has nothing to do with the "fantasy" setting or the "fantasy" of the mind. It's about a company's last chance at survival.

[Noxifer]

A couerl colored bikini is not anything like a talisman.

But you'll agree that the Coeurl Beach Maro and Coeurl Beach Pareo are equivalent, yes? As well as the Coeurl Beach Tanga vs Brief, yes? The talisman is the top wear for those, the same as the Coeurl Beach Halter is the top wear. One for men, one for women. That makes it the equivalent, even if they don't look the same. Like mentioned, the Snow/Lightning sets don't look the same. Nor do the Eternal Bond sets for male/female.

Most the thread is about conversion of the current female specific gear to unisex to accommodate cross-dressing.

Male specific gear is actually designed for males. Pretty much instead of trying to modify existing gear that is already gender specific, advocate for new gear.

So... females wearing the best man suit aren't crossdressing? Not to mention females wearing the gambler suit, or the thavnairian bolero+sarouel? Heck, just a few decades ago, women wearing trousers at all was considered crossdressing.

Most of the people posting here (that aren't arguing against it) are saying "either make female outfits unisex as well, or give male characters exclusive outfits". So yes, this thread is about both.
Because much of the gear that's been designed for males has been made unisex, whereas the same hasn't happened in the reverse case. The only male-only sets that exists have a female-only equivalent. We want them to stop with that practice, but in what way they stop it (make more unisex or make more male-only) is a bit less important.

Also, see the quote in my signature -- they've already said that they will consider making some female-only pieces unisex (probably on the timeline of Soon(tm)....), and that they'll make more male-only gear. Admittedly, that statement was probably made after they'd finalized the designs for this particular set, but it kinda felt like a slap in the face when they've said that, then a couple of weeks later publish pictures of women wearing the female-only thavnairian set and men wearing... the unisex set. But because of deadlines on designs and how they're related to release dates, I'm still keeping my hopes up for the next time they release gender-specific gear.

[Gramul]

It's called Final Fantasy because Squaresoft was going bankrupt and the game they were making was their final attempt before crashing. It has nothing to do with the "fantasy" setting or the "fantasy" of the mind. It's about a company's last chance at survival.

I think the fantasy setting may have also something to do with it.

I am curious though. Why persist in rejecting the subject of the thread?
What is there to be tarnished from allowing it and what value does it have to our society as a whole?
Is it worth defending, and if so, why?