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    h0tNstilettos's Avatar
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    That article is a little misleading. Sites that pull data of active subs place total in the millions, a bit over 2 million, and that only counts those in an FC. So the article saying 800,000 to 1.2 million active estimate is waaay off. An article I saw published like a month ago said active subs were 2.5 million, which is about right considering the estimates from pulled data.

    As for king of MMOs, sub numbers don't make an MMO the best in this particular situation. It is a widely held consensus that FFXIV is the best pay to play MMO on the market right now and is now the torch holder. Most of those subs WoW still has is those playing for nostalgia. Most have played many many years and just can't let go, while many have been able to let go. WoW can release an expansion giving players a virtual turd and they'll still see a big burst in subs. Not saying WoW is a bad game. It's a superb MMO, but not quite as good as FFXIV, especially with the past so and so expansions. WoW is only better to those that need parsars/addons and love PVP more than PVE. If FFXIV was released at close to the same time WoW was, FFXIV would have more subs, even if WoW had same graphics quality like being released today. Everquest>WoW>FFXIV>who will be next? Those 3 MMOs are considered the pinnacles of the MMO. And someday, another will be. Maybe EQ Next will be next. Pun not intended.
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    Last edited by h0tNstilettos; 07-06-2015 at 03:07 PM.

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    *There are currently only 2 paid MMOs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    *There are currently only 2 paid MMOs
    No, actually. EVE and Wildstar are 2 others, but Wild Star will be going free to play. It should be noted that even when most of the MMOs going free to play did have a sub, they still never topped FFXIV in subs. No pay to play MMO in history has had more subs than FFXIV except WoW.

    Edit: Person couple posts below this points out others I forgot about.
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    Even if someone quits, they had to purchase the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    *There are currently only 2 paid MMOs
    WoW, EQ, EQ2, FFXI, FFXIV, EVE, LOtRO. I'm sure I missed a few.
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    who's still playing WoW? there're so many better games than that and a lot of them a B2P and F2P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizy View Post
    WoW, EQ, EQ2, FFXI, FFXIV, EVE, LOtRO. I'm sure I missed a few.
    swotor is still pay to play and has item mall for free non sub players also is pso2 pay to play also??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    swotor is still pay to play and has item mall for free non sub players also is pso2 pay to play also??
    Swotor is F2P with a cash shop and the option to subscribe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Swotor is F2P with a cash shop and the option to subscribe.
    but still has sub based options so can fall into that categorey aswell XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    who's still playing WoW? there're so many better games than that and a lot of them a B2P and F2P.
    WoW is an excellent game, but it's currently plagued by developers and designers with thumbs up their butts.
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