Summon macros with pet-specific automatic crossbar update

[Koyuki38]

Besides the fact that the first macro would infact work after a ruin 2(not that there should ever be a case where you should be summoning after a ruin 2 in the first place) and you're second macro, while being ridiculously written, would also work after a ruin 2(off gcd abilities, recent bugs with draw and forbidden chakra notwithstanding, have always been fine to macro as they can already be used during the gcd), your third point seems to only tangentially be related to the topic at all, as wether the macro should be used to replace ruin 1 or dreadwyrm trance has nothing to do with wether the type of macro this topic is about is viable in the first place.

There is situations where we would summon during OGCD.

those macros work but require delay before pressing it when using after an instant GCD spell, which is not a good thing.

Macro for Dreadwyrm Transe and deathflare :
If your want, you can use this macro in order to use the same button for Transe and Deathflare


/micon "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Deathflare"

Carefull, like said previously this require some delay.

so, in order to prevent fail, due to this delay, you can
- spam the macro
- get skill and delay it yourself
or use this little trick, but you may lose more time it bad timed

/micon "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Deathflare"
/wait 1
/ac "Dreadwyrm Trance"

This last macro will cast Dreadwyrm Trance 1 sec after you used the macro, in case you character doesn't go under Transe on the button press.
It would maybe possible to use this :
/micon "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Deathflare"
/wait 1
/ac "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Deathflare"

for the same reason, in case you character doesn't cast Deathflare
BUT i need to test this last, because it may cast Deathflare right after Transe (not a good idea)

[Zorzi]

Cut for length

I don't think having Trance and Deathflare on the same macro is a good idea at all. Even the first one without the wait has a chance of ending your Trance early if you spam it. The last one, with the wait between Trance and Deathflare definitely will.

I think the OP is actually talking about putting Trance and Deathflare on separate macros that switch between two hotbar setups. The one to activate Trance places Ruin 3 on their hotbar (making it an "in Trance" hotbar switch) and another for Deathflare that removes Ruin 3 (an "out of Trance" switch.) If I'm understanding it right, this will mean that if something goes wrong and, for some reason, Trance doesn't activate but their hotbars switch to "in Trance", simply hitting the Deathflare macro will revert it (and not use Deathflare because, in this scenario, Trance was never used.) And of course in the scenario where everything goes as planned, their hotbars are rearranged on the fly with whatever skills they need at the moment.

If this is what they mean then I can't see much dangerous about it. The only thing I can think of is if activating Trance while already in Trance deactivates it; then you might run into problems if you hit the macro to go into Trance but your hotbars don't switch. But I don't know if that's what happens, and I assume since it has a 15s cooldown it will just error out and do nothing.

[Buff_Archer]

I don't think having Trance and Deathflare on the same macro is a good idea at all. Even the first one without the wait has a chance of ending your Trance early if you spam it. The last one, with the wait between Trance and Deathflare definitely will.

I think the OP is actually talking about putting Trance and Deathflare on separate macros that switch between two hotbar setups. The one to activate Trance places Ruin 3 on their hotbar (making it an "in Trance" hotbar switch) and another for Deathflare that removes Ruin 3 (an "out of Trance" switch.) If I'm understanding it right, this will mean that if something goes wrong and, for some reason, Trance doesn't activate but their hotbars switch to "in Trance", simply hitting the Deathflare macro will revert it (and not use Deathflare because, in this scenario, Trance was never used.) And of course in the scenario where everything goes as planned, their hotbars are rearranged on the fly with whatever skills they need at the moment.

If this is what they mean then I can't see much dangerous about it. The only thing I can think of is if activating Trance while already in Trance deactivates it; then you might run into problems if you hit the macro to go into Trance but your hotbars don't switch. But I don't know if that's what happens, and I assume since it has a 15s cooldown it will just error out and do nothing.

You got it, that's exactly what I mean. I'm simply using these macros to transform my crossbar upon the activation of a certain skill; macros such as these aren't intended to be used for automatically activating Ability B after using Ability A... rather it's for when using Ability A means immediately after you'd want to have Ability B and C in a much more accessible place on your crossbar.

[Kravinoff]

Here is what I have set up for when using trance and seems to be working pretty well for me so far.

/macroicon "Dreadwyrm Trance"
/ac "Dreadwyrm Trance" <me>
/crosshotbar set "Deathflare" 1 LDU
/wait 15
/crosshotbar set "Shadow Flare" 1 LDU

I have heard that using Shadow Flare while in trance is always a DPS loss compared to using a single Ruin III so this macro replaces Shadow Flare with Deathflare while trance is up