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  1. #61
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    Sandamar Delys
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    Paladin Is fine right now. They have less AE damage? Who cares? Besides spreading goring blade Is great damage since one goring is 540 potency.

    What people tend to forget Is that ofc war do more ae damage but they also forget to mention that paladin has way more mitigation especially on large pull. Thus allowing paladin to take bigger pulls So it Is a trade off.

    BE my guest and pull double le triple pack with Warrior using cyclone (So no IB) and wish luck to your healer which usually makes it impossible to dps while a paladin could make it possible
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandamar View Post
    BE my guest and pull double le triple pack with Warrior using cyclone (So no IB) and wish luck to your healer which usually makes it impossible to dps while a paladin could make it possible
    Unchained + IR + Berserk + Vengeance + Bloodbath + OP spam = zzz what is damage
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    This topic makes me sick. Pld is in such a stupid good place right now yet pld divas ALWAYS want more and won't be happy till they're the ultimate solution to everything.
    I don't see what's so bad that paladins want to have AT LEAST ONE aoe enmity skill that doesn't have a long cooldown. Have you ever tried to get aggro from a WAR who's spamming Overpower by flashing? I did and it's just impossible.
    Enmity is also generated by your DPS, you know, and Flash is not even an attack which makes it very hard sometimes to hold aggro by just flashing with overgeared DPS in your party while with Overpower most of the time it's not a problem at all.
    And now there are dark knights with another spammable enmity aoe. Feels kind of unfair, especially considering that both WAR and DRK can use Flash as cross skill.
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  4. #64
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    On the paper Yeah in fact everything will BE off before Monster are dead. And you are off for 2-3 minutes Woot
    Have you even tried? I have both pld and war i181 and i would rather do big pull anyday with paladin. Especially with a random healer.

    Warrior just gets raped atm with i180 if you go for 8+ Monster that´s the truth nothing to argue on that and your healer can forget dpsing
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    Have you ever tried to get aggro from a WAR who's spamming Overpower by flashing? I did and it's just impossible.
    Why would you ever try that?

    Flash generates 600 enmity. Overpower is 120 potency x5 = 600 enmity. A PLD's Flash is more than enough to hold any amount of mobs in any dungeon, if you're losing aggro then that's your fault (or your gear's). The difference is that Overpower is affected by stuff like Berserk so it'll generate a little more enmity, but hey, if PLDs are going to claim they're far better at MT it's only fair WAR does something else better.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdorGrey View Post
    This topic makes me sick. Pld is in such a stupid good place right now yet pld divas ALWAYS want more and won't be happy till they're the ultimate solution to everything.
    Won't be satisfied until I get everything everyone else has and more. :sarcasm:
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    Why would you ever try that?

    Flash generates 600 enmity. Overpower is 120 potency x5 = 600 enmity. A PLD's Flash is more than enough to hold any amount of mobs in any dungeon, if you're losing aggro then that's your fault (or your gear's). The difference is that Overpower is affected by stuff like Berserk so it'll generate a little more enmity, but hey, if PLDs are going to claim they're far better at MT it's only fair WAR does something else better.
    It was an experiment because in raids it just seemed to be really hard to take aggro from WAR as PLD without Provoke.
    So with a WAR who had a bit higher gear than mine I just couldn't take aggro from him.
    I don't mean to say that Flash is bad but sometimes it just feels like it's not enough. Plus aoe would really help with leveling, especially right now when all people do in fates is "aoe, aoe, aoe".
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    especially right now when all people do in fates is "aoe, aoe, aoe".
    Uh....Fates are mostly hate based, you don't need to hold the mobs attention though.

    2nd, Flash is probably the best thing for them since in congested servers you can use it without a target present, giving you a lead over people who have to wait for the server to load up the mobs. This also places the mob on your hate list (where the little red circles and ect show up at), you can then manually target and single target out bosses before the mob even shows up on your screen.
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    Last edited by Seku; 07-05-2015 at 10:08 PM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    Uh....Fates are mostly hate based, you don't need to hold the mobs attention though.

    2nd, Flash is probably the best thing for them since in congested servers you can use it without a target present, giving you a lead over people who have to wait for the server to load up the mobs. This also places the mob on your hate list (where the little red circles and ect show up at), you can then manually target and single target out bosses before the mob even shows up on your screen.
    So far neither flashing or poking them one by one gave me more than silver tho.
    But hey, all I said was just personal experience and maybe I'm just really unlucky
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  10. #70
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    Aqualina Asalani
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    Siren
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    Please Don't take flash from us! We needs it as a Dark Knight!! Not enough Unleash to go around!!! No NO I WONT STAND FOR IT! SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!!

    /Panic
    /Heavy Breathing
    /Faint









    Heh...Flash, on a Drk...That's a good one :3
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