Equilibrium must needs be restored [heavy sppoiler]

[Wizarus]

I don't know if Hydaelyn is good anymore tbh. After that ending about Light becoming too powerful, balance needing to be restored, and her comments after you regain her blessing, I'm skeptical about anything she says at this point.

"Shine Light on all creation!" sounds like something a primal would say to me.

[Exodus-E]

I don't know if Hydaelyn is good anymore tbh. After that ending about Light becoming too powerful, balance needing to be restored, and her comments after you regain her blessing, I'm skeptical about anything she says at this point.

"Shine Light on all creation!" sounds like something a primal would say to me.

I see your point.

But still...the problem is that this whole non-sense on "equilibrium" is coming from an Ascian; you know, the same guys who are biased for THEIR own god (Zodiark), as well as having committed horrible deeds throughout history (Calamities/"Rejoinings") with no regard for the common man.

Then again, it was Elidibus who said that (and he's the most "approachable" of them all), so there may be some weight in his assessments.

In short, we just don't know enough yet.
For all we know, both Hydaelyn and Zodiark are evil (or worse, they're actually two sides of the same proverbial coin), and we'll end up having to oppose them both further down the line...

[Frederick22]

For all we know, both Hydaelyn and Zodiark are evil (or worse, they're actually two sides of the same proverbial coin), and we'll end up having to oppose them both further down the line...

I think you guys are overthinking to much already. There is no evidence, nothing at all ( for now ) that would point that hydaelyn is evil. To much early to make this crasy teories.
For thinks are like this, Hydaelyn is good and cares about life, while Zodiark ( dunno why but im thinking this guy is getting more similar to kefka ) whats to doestroy all.

[waifugenerator]

I don't think either of them are evil, they just have to be kept in equilibrium, just like the Triad

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I'm calling shenanigans with "keeping things in the balance" because the Ascians screwed around with man and dragon waaaaaaay before the Warrior of Light was even a thing. There was, as far as I know, no "threat" of light in ancient history.

[Balipu]

I'm calling shenanigans with "keeping things in the balance" because the Ascians screwed around with man and dragon waaaaaaay before the Warrior of Light was even a thing. There was, as far as I know, no "threat" of light in ancient history.

As far as you know.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Do you got anything to add? Because every time I hear a character crying about balance, it's usually "my side is not winning!"

[Fenral]

There was, as far as I know, no "threat" of light in ancient history.

Watch through Doga and Unei's Allagan History Lesson again. The Tower's overflowing light was enough to satisfy every want of every common citizen, but the Empire itself went into a serious decline as a direct result. Sounds a whole lot like the light was out of balance there to me, but it's never been brought up again in game since it was first mentioned. Sounds fishy, though, once you consider everything that happened to correct it snowballed into an Umbral Era, because that means Ascians.

Was the Allagans' utopia in fact perfect until Ascians intervened?
Were the Ascians forced to intervene to prevent worse damage from being done?
Or did they merely take advantage of a serious issue the Allagans created on their own?

It's there, but you have to dig deep.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Ok, but what about after the Allagans had fallen? Did something else happen for a long time that "warranted" the need of the Ascians to do what they do before 1.0 came along?

Another thing that bothers me about their obsession with "balance" is they teach people how to summon primals, which sucks up the aether from the world and puts everything in danger. How is that bringing balance back?

[Fenral]

Another thing that bothers me about their obsession with "balance" is they teach people how to summon primals, which sucks up the aether from the world and puts everything in danger. How is that bringing balance back?

What you should be asking instead, I think, is where is that aether going? If we can one day understand that, I think we can understand the entire conflict.