Who actually got conj , so that hey could be a dmg mage ?

[Albio]

I am disappointed with CON right now as well. I ranked it up so I could be a nuking machine like my BLM in XI. CON nukes are lolz though, not even worth casting. I just think SE decided they hated mages and so screwed them over in any way they could in this game. Okay, that is just me exaggerating but still. Ugly gear, garbage spells, etc. It's very annoying. The only thing I have enjoyed about CON so far is the storyline from the 3 quests. It was actually one of my favs. And how CON isn't going to be BLM when it clearly has all the elemental nukes, debuffs is beyond me. I mean if you add up BLM spells, CON has way more than THM. I think THM is an abomination, fun to play, but it's in some weird grey area of mages, with spells that have never been in an FF game before. CON is clearly WHM and BLM rolled into one.

[Coglin]

So Albio,I have to ask, how it is "clearly" anything?

Thats the number one problem with conj perception in game and in the forums. Every poster with a bad attitude takes every thing in XI to have the same definition in XIV. BLM is the DD mage, not the elemental mage. SE isn't wrong my friend....YOU are. In XI they cast elemental nukes, in XIV they cast DoTs and debuffing astral/umbral spells.

Problem number 2.....The inability to differinciate between the old dev team and the new dev team. SE doesn't hate mages, nor did they screw them up. The original dev team did. The new one is trying to differenciate and fix the 2.

What these two issues boil down too is that every FOOL who ASSUMED which would be which, no blames SE and the dev team, because they are not mature enough to accept the blame on themselves for making the INCORRECT ASSUPTION.

[Albio]

Well I am talking in the context of a job system being incorporated with the game, which is in the works. CON clearly has more spells for either BLM or WHM. That was my point, CON is a disappointment, not in the context of XI, but in the context of Final Fantasy, I referenced XI as an example. In most Final Fantasy games, elemental nukes are extremely powerful, I used BLM because that, up until the this release, was the class that casts them. Mages are, in Final Fantasy XIV, sad compared to their predecessors. If I am not mistaken, the new dungeon gear is from the new dev team, ugly yellow bliaud mixed with red pants, not the best looking armor I have seen, that was the new dev team. I can differentiate between the two. You should work on how you speak to people, condescension is used to mask insecurities. Don't call me friend either, cause we're clearly not.

[Coglin]

Don't get angry at me because you made unfounded assumptions. You said "clearly" being ver condesceneding to anyone who disagrees with your unfounded assumption that just because in other games in a series, that is has to apply here. I stand by my claim that fools make assumption, and that making assumptions is foolish.

I am a little confussed by your hipocrocy in being condescending in your previous post, yet when I call you out on making false assumption as tons upon tons have about con and thm, while the path quest appear to differentiate which one dabbles in the power of death and which one dabbles in the power of life, you make a comment to me about condescention.....

Just because you "claim" the spells are garbage, doesn't make it so. Just because you dislike the garb, doesn't make it bad. To assume to state it as fact is quit unintelligently high and might of you my friend.

[Aeyis]

So Albio,I have to ask, how it is "clearly" anything?

Thats the number one problem with conj perception in game and in the forums. Every poster with a bad attitude takes every thing in XI to have the same definition in XIV. BLM is the DD mage, not the elemental mage. SE isn't wrong my friend....YOU are. In XI they cast elemental nukes, in XIV they cast DoTs and debuffing astral/umbral spells.

Problem number 2.....The inability to differinciate between the old dev team and the new dev team. SE doesn't hate mages, nor did they screw them up. The original dev team did. The new one is trying to differenciate and fix the 2.

What these two issues boil down too is that every FOOL who ASSUMED which would be which, no blames SE and the dev team, because they are not mature enough to accept the blame on themselves for making the INCORRECT ASSUPTION.

I'm sure your refering to everyone who assumed that they would be split up in black and white mages period.
Just cuz your on the other side of the fence with the OP and probably on the same side that the current dev team is on doesnt mean your side has the right per defination.

[Shyd]

I thought i could conjure up spiritual beings to aid in my fighting, ie. summoner.

I was disappointed then confused.

[MuSaka]

BUT we are forced to heal.
So who is really disappointed whit the way they screwd us with falls advertisement ?

Nobody force u to heal actually and even if there is, it can never prevent u from doing dmg to mobs. Not like u can keep healing nonstop without runing out of mp within 1 mins. Actually I myself always DD on con these days.
Check out the Great Buffalo/Dodore duo I made after patch1.18~Not like healing prevent me from doing dmg.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...424#post309424

[Estellios]

In XI they cast elemental nukes, in XIV they cast DoTs and debuffing astral/umbral spells.

Uh... just want to point out that it's not only in XI that BLM casts elemental nukes... it's actually every game they've ever been in.

[Coglin]

Uh... just want to point out that it's not only in XI that BLM casts elemental nukes... it's actually every game they've ever been in.

I understand that my friend, but they have taken a different direction with the majority of the game, thus to assume they would not take different directions elsewhere and get angry because the didn't. Well, thats the individuals fault.

Not to mention, I don't think the single player rpg series should be "expected" to verify everything in a FF mmo. If that were the case plenty would be complainng that they cannot run around as a feline/canine, dog/cat like thing that can speak english like Red VIII.

[Estellios]

Nah just my reasoning is that Black Mage will definitely be whatever gets elemental nukes otherwise it would be called something else. It won't be different if the nukes are staying on CON or getting shifted to THM. The Jobs are supposed to be like classic stuff anyways, so they wouldn't be changing what is pretty much the whole point of the job in past games. It's different between something being in 1 game or something being established throughout the entire series. Otherwise we could just easily say THM is going to be WHM and WHM will be a dark-based nuker.