The Origins of the Dragonsong War - doubts [HW spoilers]

[Clawtooth]

For a moment during that scene, I expected that there would be some second revelation that Nidhogg was involved in Ratatoskr's death. He seems characteristically malicious, especially in the scene where he pressures Hraesvelgr for half of his power. It could still be revealed that Nidhogg was inherently evil and was actually involved; perhaps he is the one who tempted Thordan in the first place. Right now, however, we've only been told that Nidhogg was skeptical of mankind to begin with and that his rage at their betrayal consumed him entirely. There's some reason to doubt it, but nothing to contradict it. Who's to say it wasn't the Ascians who put Thordan on that train of thought?

At least we know that it probably wasn't the Allagans >.>

Yeah I thought the same to be honest, which is why I made the thread. Of course as the narrative is pointing us at the moment, it was purely Thordan's greed which caused the war to begin as you say later; I just think it would be interesting to have a "double" revalation whereby it is not as simple as the men (3.0) or the dragons (3.1-3.??) initially believed it to be. Particularly considering that the of all the times we have had Echos of important events in Eorzea's history, the one that was crucial (Ratatoskr's death) was delivered to us by Hraesvelgr as a monologue, not as an Echo. Something something show don't tell something something general narrative theory. I'd have been willing to accept the truth as told to us before Nidhogg returned but as of now I doubt this will be the last we hear of the origins of the war (they went to the trouble of giving a voice to Haldrath after all).

As for potential Allagan involvement ... well ... there's a lot of Allagan tech in the Aery. it's slightly surruptitiously hidden but it's definitely there and it is never explained. This is probably a topic for another thread though.

[Anonymoose]

... there's a lot of Allagan tech in the Aery.

I had assumed it was Dalamud wreckage, though if Nidhogg had once been bound that might go a long way towards explaining why he distrusted humans so much, lol. Let's just dawn the Darksteekfoil Hat here and see if anything comes of it... In Azys Lla, the node casually mentions that sections were damage when a dragon broke free 2,369 years ago, well after the station went dark 5,014 years ago. I thought it was Tiamat, but she's been cooped up brooding since then, it sounds like. If people want to speculate Allagan involvement it, though, perhaps it was Nidhogg