DRK DPS?

[FallenWings]

They should have made one of DRK's CC class be Lancer instead of Marauders. Invigorate would greatly help with TP issues and Blood for Blood while also fitting DRK's theme would be a powerful buff that is generally only useable as OT.

[JayCommon]

Ravana is not a raid boss. For those of us that did coil 10-13 before echo, Ravana EX is an utter joke. You are not being hit that hard, which is why people were able to clear it so quickly after freshly hitting 60 and getting law gear. It's a stepping stone fight, and people are getting a false impression of tanking from it honestly.

Not a single person said Ravana was a raid boss. Shit, there are large windows of time in Ravana where no one is taking any damage at all. 10/11 are "utter jokes" as well, 12/13 need minor coordination and knowing when to pop a CD and where to place Bennu. So hard to grab a tether off of someone or tank something somewhere, right? People beat turn 13 the day after it was released also, if that's supposed to be a form of comparison. I honestly think you are giving the people a false impression on the level of difficulty involved in tanking in general, but whatever...

Ravana was used as an example because it is literally the highest level of content we have in game right now. Since we don't have any tougher options to gauge the performance of this job from, this is literally the top of the chart for another week. We voice our opinions because we can see glaring issues with how the job plays and how this will affect real raid environments. The fact that the fight isn't tough makes the issues being brought up even more relevant because they will be pronounced in a raid environment.

Are we supposed to wait until we get left out of the real deal to say anything?? They don't let us test anything before release so we can have these problems fixed before they enter the game. I have a group so I don't have to worry about being pushed aside because I'm a DRK, but other people who may be looking to raid progressively and have been awaiting this job as I have won't be so lucky. We need adjustments. Saying Ravana isn't a raid boss doesn't change that fact.

[Hyunckel]

I'm curious to what it would be like in raid. Maybe around 600-700?

I managed a consistent 700 dps in the 3rd Heavensward trial against the 12 knights of the round table (lol). With full 180 gear (minus one 170 ring). That was actually facerolling for a FC friend who needed an instant queue for her story quest.

That was during the first 3 minute phase, I was out of TP at the end of it too lol

We are sooooooooooo TP starved it isn't even funny.

On a lv50dummy I do about 700 ish too IIRC.... I'm lacking so much sleep lately that I can't tell for sure. I derped quite a bit today in Bismarck EX lol.
But being able to do 400-450 dps while tanking stuff is pretty nice tho

Well, it's official, the Dark Arts dupe is gone. Our DPS just ended up taking a fairly sizeable hit because of it, and Dark Passenger is now a complete trap skill. The case used to be that you could eke out a bit of extra damage from Dark Passenger with good MP management before, but now Dark Passenger has no business being used in any capacity.

On the plus side, we no longer have to time our CaS/DPs for optimal damage, so DPSing became a little easier, since we might as well just fire them off whenever they come up, even if it did get worse overall.

With this gone, I'd like to see how DRK parses compared to the other tanks now.

I was wondering why I was struggling to go above 700 dps ... Well 700 is no brainer, but I was wondering how the hell that guy was doing 910 dps stable lol.

I just love how fast they were on Drk about this. While Warrior's are just crushing 5500-7k Fell Cleaves, SE doesn't see this as a issue. But Drk combining CnS / Souleater (60 sec window mind you) was so game breaking it needed fixed.

Only?



And here I was happy with my 2.5 K crits lol

Can't wait for warriors to be nerfed

[Alphras]

You are only critting for 2.5k with full STR gear, a STR potion, a ilvl 190 weapon and a ninja debuff on Ravana EX in his vulnerable phase? Sorry I don't buy that.

[Hyunckel]

I did a new 2min35 parse and was at 740 dps stable while derping and not being able to chain two ogcd skills since muh european latency (145 ms ><)

That was with no food, no potions, no party buff, no party mumbers debuffing the dummy

ilv179

I was expecting more since I'm doing 700 dps more or less stable in some trials already o_O

You are only critting for 2.5k with full STR gear, a STR potion, a ilvl 190 weapon and a ninja debuff on Ravana EX in his vulnerable phase? Sorry I don't buy that.

Learn2read? I don't have a 190 weapon, no ninja debuffs, not doing ravana ex nor using str potions lol. I was just referencing my average day to day crits while doing random dungeons bra

And without all those conditions, Fel Cleave still hits harder than 2.5k lol. Especially since you have Maim + Storm's Path =)

I just recorded a 2645 Soul Eater crit on dummy lv50. (400 Potency)
I need to see how high can Carve and Spit can go.

[Alphras]

Than why do you compare your crit to these conditions? Learn2context.

Of course Fell Cleave crits higher since DRK has a huge general potency and ogcd advantage. That is called balance.

Edit: Not saying DRK does not need a Buff (don't know, never saw any real numbers), but throwing around these screenshots and demanding a WAR nerf does not help at all.

Edit 2: And you mean Storm's Eye, which DRK and PLD also profit from.

[Hyunckel]

Then* why do you compare your crit to these conditions? Learn2context.

Of course Fell Cleave crits higher since DRK has a huge general potency and ogcd advantage. That is called balance. Never said anything about balance

Edit: Not saying DRK does not need a Buff (don't know, never saw any real numbers), but throwing around these screenshots and demanding a WAR nerf does not help at all. Woooooshhhhh

Edit 2: And you mean Storm's Eye, which DRK and PLD also profit from.

We're comparing both WAR & DRK as a dpsing OT. I'm not sure we'll ever see a WAR MTign with a DRK dpsing in OT, so I doubt we'll be able to see a DRK benefiting from Storm's Eye (yeah, didn't play war in 5 months so I got both inverted)

Also I was joking about the warrior nerf and me being happy with my 2.5k crits, ofc I'm not comparing 2.5k crits with that setting >_> That would be in like ilv130 maybe. Chill out.

[JayCommon]

I need to see how high can Carve and Spit can go.

The best C&S I've been able to crit on a training dummy with no other player buffs is around 3200. I was wearing all STR accs so my STR was at or close to 850. I have been learning Ravana as MT so I use Fending there, but I just got some nice i150 crafted accs that I'm going to try out in there tonight and see if I can crit something better on the vulnerable stage.

[Hyunckel]

The best C&S I've been able to crit on a training dummy with no other player buffs is around 3200. I was wearing all STR accs so my STR was at or close to 850. I have been learning Ravana as MT so I use Fending there, but I just got some nice i150 crafted accs that I'm going to try out in there tonight and see if I can crit something better on the vulnerable stage.

What is weird is that my crit can fluctuate between 5% (which is the minimum value) to 11%, at 500 Crit rating total. It's supposed to be about 8.5% crit chance, but what can you do on such a small sample since after 2min30 we get tp starved >_>

Also, the +% crit damage bonus seems weird. I seem to be getting +37 to +40% damage increase on crits (lowest should be 40%) whereas I'm supposed to expect +45 to +47% increases hum...

So far I managed to get between 731 to 752 stable dps over 2min30. It's definitely lower than before when chaining two empowered ogcd dark arts skills =/
I'm not even using Dark Passenger anymore since the HUUUUUUUUUGE MP cost is reallllly not worth it compared to usual Soul Eater. (+100 compared to +160 potency? For 884 MP? Yeah thanks but no thanks)

Highest Soul Eater crit was 2531 and Carve and Spit was disappoint at 2701 =/

EDIT: I'm at 865 STR, using the ilv180 weapon.

Can't wait to see in Ravana ex with all the +% damage increases tho.

Anyway, it's pretty fun to outdps some machinists and bards in random expert roulettes so I'll settle with that dps for now xD

[Alphras]

752 seems a bit low to me with full STR accessories. IRC my WAR was around 750 over 3min with one VIT and four melded ilvl 110 accessories.

TP management needs to be touched either way. 2:30 is way too low.