Astrologian Weak? hmm...

[AlexanderThorolund]

Unfortunately nothing you say can turn the bandwagon of "astro sucks" on this forum. Solo healing any ex has always been rough, acting like its easy is just ridiculous. I'll wait for the videos of the users above to show their solo heal run.

Yes, im with you, all the way on this. Belittling other peoples achievement is a one way drive towards a toxic community. Praise and appreciate other peoples skill, don't trivialize it.

[SovereignAegis]

Yes, im with you, all the way on this. Belittling other peoples achievement is a one way drive towards a toxic community. Praise and appreciate other peoples skill, don't trivialize it.

I agree with this 100%.

Seeing people rip on the OP because of their prejudice towards Astrologian kind of made me angry.

[loreleidiangelo]

As soon as I saw this posted on Reddit, I knew this vid would wind up here in a desperate attempt to prove that ASTs aren't currently horribly outclassed by both other healing jobs ATM.

CAN do they content? Sure. Is it EASY and/or EFFICIENT to bring them over the current WHM/SCH meta? Hell no. Nice vid, though; its always enjoyable to watch a capable AST at work, even if the job itself needs some tweaks. Now that my static is relatively geared (I was still in quest whites until late yesterday, lol), we're eager to sink our teeth into the fight before Alex comes out and all our attention is diverted to that.

[Krixus]

As soon as I saw this posted on Reddit, I knew this vid would wind up here in a desperate attempt to prove that ASTs aren't currently horribly outclassed by both other healing jobs ATM.

CAN do they content? Sure. Is it EASY and/or EFFICIENT to bring them over the current WHM/SCH meta? Hell no. Nice vid, though; its always enjoyable to watch a capable AST at work, even if the job itself needs some tweaks. Now that my static is relatively geared (I was still in quest whites until late yesterday, lol), we're eager to sink our teeth into the fight before Alex comes out and all our attention is diverted to that.

Not sure you know what efficient means. Ast would be more so because ast/sch can buff the pt and whm cannot. So if you have a capable ast, yes it is more efficient.

[Sanguisio]

The RNG with cards does kinda bulls things up when trying to put SCH and AST against each other DPS wise. I think party compo is going to be a consideration whether AST is good to take with or not due buffs really only benefiting certain classes, where cards like arrow are more beneficial for some as oppose the speed boost. Also dps wise SCH and AST are close and SCH will only more if they use their stacks for ED, however they do more DOT damage whereas AST does less DOT damage but more filler damage.

If the other healer can handle the majority of things and you can stand there in dps stance for prolonged periods of time. However if that is the case it might be worth going double WHM one heals other does predominantly DPS lol

[mp-please]

Hilariously, everyone misses the fact that astrologians can heal relatively similar to a white mage with them only missing a burst aoe heal comparable to cure III. The real issue with astrologians isn't how well they heal but on their utility being completely random and mostly useless compared to other healers. While astrologian lacks the passive healing power to switch safely to dps mode like scholar and even whm, they make up for it for boosting other people dps. That is, if they actually draw balance, arrow or spear. If rng isn't on the astrologian favor, crap draws such as chain bole/spire/ewer are a reality.

Hell, i've drawn 5 spires in row on a party full of casters, and one would think shuffle is useful.

[Velox]

If the other healer can handle the majority of things and you can stand there in dps stance for prolonged periods of time. However if that is the case it might be worth going double WHM one heals other does predominantly DPS lol

In such a case, a SCH would definitely be a better option. For one, SCH has spells that completely ignore ACC requirements. They also have an almost unlimited MP pool (least-MP constrained healer in FFXIV). Even in pure DPS mode, a WHM will still run out of MP eventually unless they stop and take long breaks to recover some of it, which ultimately leads to massive DPS loss. That, plus all the misses from lack of ACC, SCH will always out-DPS a WHM.

[Leiloni]

In such a case, a SCH would definitely be a better option. For one, SCH has spells that completely ignore ACC requirements. They also have an almost unlimited MP pool (least-MP constrained healer in FFXIV). Even in pure DPS mode, a WHM will still run out of MP eventually unless they stop and take long breaks to recover some of it, which ultimately leads to massive DPS loss. That, plus all the misses from lack of ACC, SCH will always out-DPS a WHM.

AST spells also ignore ACC requirements.

[SenzorialBoundries]

AST doesnt have a pocket whm with superhuman reactions to help them extend their Cleric Stance time.

[Seryl199]

I'd hardly consider SCH's fairy to have "superhuman" reactions. Plus, AST puts 690 potency on the table with two DoT's, one with no cast time, and pushes them out fast with Diurnal Sect's speed buff. If accuracy (and MP!) isn't an overwhelming issue, AST can apply Aero, and its flat nuke is 200 potency. I'm not saying AST is the superior DPS, as SCH has AoE options as well, but AST's DPS output isn't trivial either.