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  1. #301
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    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Smily Kweh
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Uhhhh, an immune boss won't be affect by any DoT so Thunder is useless.
    Yes never reap goes immune, however dots still ti and thunder starter still procs. Boss aren't always immune when you loose the ability to target them. Even if the boss takes 0 damage the spell still hits and crits for 0 damage, or ticks for immune damage and still gives you a thunder starter proc, because all c thunder cloud require is the dot tic not for it to do damage. For instance in AK HM the final boss takes 0 damage while he charges but isn't immune, you can refresh umbra ice, or get a firestarter proc ready, and cast thunder in hopes of a proc. That way when's done casting you have all the tools you need to jump back in at full damage.
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 07-01-2015 at 05:20 AM.

  2. #302
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    Dajinn's Avatar
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    Dajinn Valheru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    5% chance is a lot to hope for in only 5 ticks assuming you're applying thunder 1. i mean i guess it's maximizing the tools the class has but ehhhhhhh.
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  3. #303
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
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    Then he has an infinite buffer... Because immune targets don't take dots and don't give you AF or UI stacks.

    Also, I did 823 in Ravana Ex. I guess it's good if I consider my party was double monk, machinist, black mage, warrior, paladin, astrologist (was getting archer cards and aoe balance), anmd scholar with selene. Would probably do 900 dps+ with a bard since they can sing Foe only in that fight.
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  4. #304
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    This is probably the most opposite opinion of a lot of people but I just really at this point am hoping casters aren't nerfed.

    Screw BLM vs SMN. It's us casters, vs the non-casters, and we're winning right now.
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  5. #305
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post

    Screw BLM vs SMN. It's us casters, vs the non-casters, and we're winning right now.
    THe DPS difference on Dummy is definitely less compared to 2.4. Last time, they buffed melees. I'd rather not see a nerf on BLM :\ How much melees do in Ravana Ex usually?
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  6. #306
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    THe DPS difference on Dummy is definitely less compared to 2.4. Last time, they buffed melees. I'd rather not see a nerf on BLM :\ How much melees do in Ravana Ex usually?
    900+. About the same as BLM under perfect conditions.
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  7. #307
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Then it comes for them to skills and how to properly do their rotation with fights like BLMs. I'm pretty sure with a full group favoring me I'd do 950+ I still think on unknown grounds Summoner is better.
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  8. #308
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    HaroldSaxon's Avatar
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    Harold Saxon
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I think they really missed the ticket in not putting in Thunder 4. Give it some kind of effect to extend enochain by 5 seconds, and can only be used upon a Thundercloud. Bam, you don't have the enochain issues it brings, you get more variety with Sharpcast.
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  9. #309
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    I haven't, but my best friend is a BLM and we've discussed things at length and I've read up enough on the intricacies on the job to at least have an opinon, even if I obviously haven't tested things myself.

    I don't mean to be rude here, but historically many BLMs come across as lazy and adverse to challenges. They also tend to be the ones who rarely bother to level another job. Call me judging, but that's my two cents.
    Imagine that every time you moved, it would interrupt your current combo and you'd have to start from the beginning and the duration of your BotD was reduced by 10 seconds. That's roughly the problem we're facing.
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

  10. #310
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    OmegaStrongtan's Avatar
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    Omega Strongtan
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 18
    Wouldn't A LOT of BLM problems be lessened by this change to Surecast:
    Next spell is cast without interruption and can be cast while moving.
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