How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Outfoxed]

For one, being full Law gear lands you at precisely 2.4 GCD. It'll be interesting to see if the esoteric stuff does the same, but I can already see a few nice perks from this.

1. You get 0.5s more per rotation to renew BotD (which has saved me dozens of times already, trust me) and HT (which is nice).
2. You can FAR more easily do 9 GCD BFBs and it allows you to nicely line up everything after Heavy Thrust to your second 4th inside your initial BFB.
3. Grace periods ARE needed because of unexpected movement/dodging. I for one am happy to have a tiny bit of leeway now compared to before, even if holding a Geirskogul is obviously easier.

Just my own thoughts on the matter, I'm sure Dervy has his.

Theorycrafting for law is pointless. It's obsolete in 1 week, and you've made use of it for maybe 2 weeks. It's also been viable for 0% of raids.

Grace periods are nice yes. You also lose .1 seconds of grace period per GCD. It's a two way street. So while you get a bit more time to clip HT, you get a bit less time per GCD

The leeway for geirskogul is several seconds long. It's actually very forgiving of minor mistakes.

Landing multiple GCDs under BFB is nice. But so is hitting harder on every single skill. Every stat has it's perks. I mean if you were arguing for crit, you would be talking about how it's so nice how your crits hit harder with IR/BL/LS. The question is, is it relatively stronger than other secondary stats?

And to be quite honest, no one really knows... Which is why we can't assume anything about how much skillspeed is needed

You can't operate under the assumption that X skillspeed is needed. That's basically a fundamental flaw in logic. I'm not saying skillspeed isn't the best stat or that it's the worst stat. I'm saying we can't assume anything about skillspeed. And telling people that 2.4 is ideal when all you have to argue for it is a couple seconds of grace period, and 0.3pps on HT is not exactly reasonable.

Until there is a comparison of secondary stats aka stat weighs, you can't assume skill speed is important. You can't just say.... Hey I'm clipping HT this must mean skillspeed is better. Just like I can't say hey my crits hit much harder than before... This means crit is the best secondary stat.

All secondary stats have their benefits. I could list the benefits of crit or det but that doesn't speak anything of how it stacks up against skillspeed.

If all your assumptions are that 2.4 is ideal, then it is up to you to prove it.... And not using a misleading figure like potency per second which conveniently doesn't take into account crit or det.

So unless stat weighs come out, the assumption that 2.4 is ideal should not be thrown around.

[Tilgung]

Theorycrafting for law is pointless. It's obsolete in 1 week.

Wrong. Esoteric will likely have heavy weekly caps and Alexander Hard was stated to have CT/ST/WoD style drop systems. Meaning all progression will be done with primarily Law gear.

[enil]

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I think there's a bunch of stuff you are misunderstanding.

PPS. PPS is being used to discuss difference between rotations - not stats. There's no discussion of stats because that's not what's being discussed when we talk about PPS.

Law. Don't theorycraft on the gear that is available? There are things to be discussed that aren't gear/stat dependant (like rotations?). There is no issue with people trying to maximise their dps with the gear they have even if it may not be relevant in two weeks. If you don't like discussing it, fine, don't need to tell other people not to.

HT uptime/grace. I don't even understand what you are trying to say here. Are you trying to say we lose damage in some way when we clip HT?

Stat weights. I think you are misunderstanding something here, stat weights are basically saying, if I add 1Det at this point in time how much damage relative do the other stats do I gain? If any stat weights were released right now they would be for LAW gear and already have assumed 2.4~ GCD because that's what the assumed level of gear would be.

I feel like your real point is is the damage gain from the 2.4 GCD worth the SkS? What is the exact PPS gain from 2.5GCD to 2.4GCD? Is it worth the potential possible STR/DET/CRIT loss in the future if we need to either meld or use lower ilvl gear to reach that level of SkS? (Though by your own point, it's pointless to discuss since the gear isn't out).