With all these astrologian complain threads

[SovereignAegis]

I think many astrologian players are outright playing it incorrectly.

I had the PLEASURE of healing through our current EX primals with an astrologian and they surely kept up their end. I see AST as being a stupidly high skillcap (no doubt) but also fairly decently rewarding job.

It isn't as simple as WHM where you outright blast someone with heals, but it is more subtle. I had literally not a single hiccup through EX primals (aside from the damn DPS checks).

[Wobble]

Completely off-topic, but I find it ironic that you decry profanity while simultaneously quoting Mark Twain; known for refusing to censor his books: "Censorship is like telling a man he can't have steak because a baby can't chew it."

Not ironic at all, I wasn't quoting them for what they believe as people. I was using the quotes for what they actually mean.

[TheWaywardWind]

I think many astrologian players are outright playing it incorrectly.

This is such a cop out of an argument it burns.

I can tell you, as someone who has been toying around with the class extensively as of late, it needs a buff. Simply stating "people are playing it wrong!!!" is not conducive to solving the actual problems at hand. You seem to decry about Machinist left and right but Astrologian is fine all by itself? Please.

All three new classes need help. People have done the math; ASTs buffs are unreliable and weak, not buffing overall party DPS by a measly 2%. Scholar's FAIRY does more and it's out all the time.

Speaking to the thread itself, AST needs help. I'm fine with lower potencies on heals due to our low versatility but for the love of god buff the cards and buff some of our abilities.
Spear is painfully useless.
The rest of the cards are painfully weak.
"But royal road them! That increases their potency and effects!"
And for what? The off-chance I somehow manage to pull the right card and have the right buff at the right time due to RNGesus toying around with me? Besides, you have to GIVE UP a buff to get one. It's useless.

Celestial Opposition is PITIFUL for a level 60 ability. Whoopdee-friggin-doo, an AoE stun! Holy has this built in. You essentially tore this away from Gravity and made it into an ability. It's garbage, Square. Absolute garbage.

You know what else is bad? Light speed. Good god, why would you ever need to throw away 25% of your healing potency and burn through mana like a madman? So you cab hypothetically "save the day" in situations that barely ever arise and are prone to wiping anyway?

AST needs buffs. Maybe not a lot, but to argue it's "fine the way it is" is silly because a few people manage to squeak by on EASY CONTENT, ex primals.

[Parawill]

I've always wanted a reversal of fortune type buff effect... Where instead of taking x damage (a cap to this), you would be healed, thus negating the damage. Or an defensive-offensive spell that prevented x damage but reflected a portion of it back to the enemy.

So for example... It would shield 100 points of damage. If a mob hits for 105, 5 damage goes through the shield, and 100 damage is reflected onto the mob.

A Stop ability would be fun too. Something that stops a skill mid-cast for a second or so... I'm just brainstorming here, so there's no logic whatsoever behind this. :P

[Rajeme]

I've always wanted a reversal of fortune type buff effect... Where instead of taking x damage (a cap to this), you would be healed, thus negating the damage. Or an defensive-offensive spell that prevented x damage but reflected a portion of it back to the enemy.

So for example... It would shield 100 points of damage. If a mob hits for 105, 5 damage goes through the shield, and 100 damage is reflected onto the mob.

A Stop ability would be fun too. Something that stops a skill mid-cast for a second or so... I'm just brainstorming here, so there's no logic whatsoever behind this. :P

I like your idea of absorbing damages, kinda like a certain mmorpg i have played before. However, it needs to be really delicately worked on, because it can easily make or break the balance.

With these many complaints, SE will probably buff the class sooner or later anyways. In before Ast becomes WTM with cards lol.

[Seeri]

You know what else is bad? Light speed. Good god, why would you ever need to throw away 25% of your healing potency and burn through mana like a madman? So you cab hypothetically "save the day" in situations that barely ever arise and are prone to wiping anyway?

It's good for Stoneskin (because it's % based anyway) and Resurrections (because you resurrect 100% of the corpse anyway!).
I've cancelled it early every time I've used it though and that, if anything, is a sign that something is wrong with a cooldown.

[Vlady]

It does not make resurrection instant cast. Just reduces 2.5 seconds reducing it to 7 ish seconds. It is good for stone skin spam though from what I have used it mostly for and requiring a lot of movement from dragon tail swipes in bismark extrme.

[jars]

stoneskin still isn't instant with lightspeed, only whm get the 2.5 cast

[Seeri]

stoneskin still isn't instant with lightspeed, only whm get the 2.5 cast

It makes the cast short enough to be used on the run though, at least for me. Don't even have to stop.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I think many astrologian players are outright playing it incorrectly.

I had the PLEASURE of healing through our current EX primals with an astrologian and they surely kept up their end. I see AST as being a stupidly high skillcap (no doubt) but also fairly decently rewarding job.

It isn't as simple as WHM where you outright blast someone with heals, but it is more subtle. I had literally not a single hiccup through EX primals (aside from the damn DPS checks).

Oh, so you're the be-all, end-all of knowledge when it comes to playing AST? Please.

I don't believe for one second that you are some amazing astrologian and everyone else is just doing it wrong. The job needs quite a bit of work, and that opinion is coming from the vast majority of the people who have played the job, as well as even tanks and DPS who have been healed by AST.