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    Valonir's Avatar
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    Kojiro Yatsurugi
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueThunder View Post
    If I said Darkside consumes around 200-300 MP and in combat you say you regenerate 138MP, with the amount of MP you say you loose with Darkside on during combat, do some maths. Or wait, I'll do it for you:

    138+127=265 ---> Actual MP that Darkside takes away from you every tick, but because you regen MP in combat, it will only take 127MP, because you're adding 138MP to that 265MP loss.

    Maths dude, they do wonders.
    Please explain how you're figuring it consumes 200-300 MP. And just because 'oh 138+127 = 265 that's the mana cost because I said so' doesn't make it true, you can't actually tell because.. it doesn't show up in the combat log that you're regenerating mana.
    Did you datamine this information, or do you just like throwing out maths for no reason?
    It could very well shut off mana regen (which is more likely, considering it also is not affected by outside sources of mana regeneration) and just cost the flat 127 MP/tick.
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    Blue Thunder
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Valonir View Post
    Please explain how you're figuring it consumes 200-300 MP. And just because 'oh 138+127 = 265 that's the mana cost because I said so' doesn't make it true, you can't actually tell because.. it doesn't show up in the combat log that you're regenerating mana.
    Did you datamine this information, or do you just like throwing out maths for no reason?
    It could very well shut off mana regen (which is more likely, considering it also is not affected by outside sources of mana regeneration) and just cost the flat 127 MP/tick.
    1) Combat log doesn't show the passive HP/MP/TP regeneration.
    2)One doesn't need to datamine to see things this blatantly obvious, and you are blind to the situation. Again if it BLOCKS MP regeneration like you claim, WHY DO YOU GET MP BACK OUT OF COMBAT?

    Hundred already did a post below mine where he explained you how he saw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueThunder View Post
    1) Combat log doesn't show the passive HP/MP/TP regeneration.
    2)One doesn't need to datamine to see things this blatantly obvious, and you are blind to the situation. Again if it BLOCKS MP regeneration like you claim, WHY DO YOU GET MP BACK OUT OF COMBAT?

    Hundred already did a post below mine where he explained you how he saw it.
    Obviously a straight week of grinding with little to no sleep has completely distorted my common sense and reasoning. At least I have the huevos to admit when I'm wrong and say you were both right.

    Thread's derailed, though (which I had my hand in doing), and it doesn't change the fact that the desync is annoying and Dark Arts empowered Dark Passenger/Abyssal Drain is still broken as hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valonir View Post
    Obviously a straight week of grinding with little to no sleep has completely distorted my common sense and reasoning. At least I have the huevos to admit when I'm wrong and say you were both right.

    Thread's derailed, though (which I had my hand in doing), and it doesn't change the fact that the desync is annoying and Dark Arts empowered Dark Passenger/Abyssal Drain is still broken as hell.
    I sleep a good 8 to 10 hours every day, even when the expansion came out.

    Avoiding any more the topic you brought up because your understanding of the mechanics of the game is erroneous is a very poor way of admiting defeat, my dear.
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    Sylve Lowen
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Not sure if it's been mentioned, but there is yet another issue with Dark Knight now. White Mage's regen ability? Yeah, that drains our MP now in Darkside. I tested this out with a WHM friend of mine, both in combat and out. While Regen is active, our darkside takes two MP ticks when it's supposed to take one. Apparently being poisoned does this same thing.

    It does go back to normal the as soon as regen is removed, however.

    So, that's fun.

    Edit: Apparently it's any buff/debuff cast on you. Awesome.
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    Last edited by Endemerrin; 07-01-2015 at 08:28 AM.

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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    Not sure if it's been mentioned, but there is yet another issue with Dark Knight now. White Mage's regen ability? Yeah, that drains our MP now in Darkside. I tested this out with a WHM friend of mine, both in combat and out. While Regen is active, our darkside takes two MP ticks when it's supposed to take one. Apparently being poisoned does this same thing.

    It does go back to normal the as soon as regen is removed, however.

    So, that's fun.

    Edit: Apparently it's any buff/debuff cast on you. Awesome.
    Woooow, is that why my mana kept draining so fast in library? Logged in after maint, did library once for msq, then did LLR and got library again and I started noticing my mp dropping even without doing anything. I just ended up thinking that the mobs in library had MP drain auto attacks or something..
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