Let's talk about Dissipation

[Tumgar]

I'm not sure what more you people want out of this class. We have by far the best kit as scholor (and really it isn't even close) and that was pre-Heavensward. Post-Heavensward our kit just got way better than it even was before (which blows me away because it was already too good to begin with) but they completely patched up any advantages a WHM had over us which was AoE healing capacity.

Now you guys are complaining about dissipation being a useless ability when it has very applicable uses in certain scenarios. Why do we need every single ability to be 100% amazing in every scenario? Wasn't indomidability/emergency tactics/depolyment tactics/broil good enough for everyone?

Lets recap on what we currently have as scholors:

-Best damage mitigation
-Best single target healing
-Best recovery tools (lustrate - way better than benediction)
-As of the expansion we now have AoE healing that is way closer to WHM than it used to be
-Way more tools at our disposal for different situation (much moreso now with emergency tactics, indomoitability, depolyment tactics)

If anything we need a nerf to some of our abilities to be more in line with WHM and AST (however have never played AST so not positive of their capabilities). I could rant on about people complaining about the lustrate "nerf" also. Stance dance better - it makes a world of difference.


And that's the end of the rant. Let's try not to turn this class into a i-win button moreso than it already is.

Thanks

[Cynfael]

Snip.

It's less about trying to make SCH even better than it is about trying not to have our capstone ability be virtually useless. I'm sure they can think of something to do with Dissipation that isn't grossly imbalanced, yet is more useful or even just more "fun" than the ability is right now.

[Tumgar]

I disagree that it is virtually useless. I use dissipation way more than I ever used an ability like benediction when I played WHM. It is situation but far from useless or virtually useless. People just haven't played with it enough to realize its capabilities or you get the people that say they are taking it off their horbar and dont even give it a chance.

[Cynfael]

I disagree that it is virtually useless. I use dissipation way more than I ever used an ability like benediction when I played WHM. It is situation but far from useless or virtually useless. People just haven't played with it enough to realize its capabilities or you get the people that say they are taking it off their horbar and dont even give it a chance.

It's still on my hotbar, and I am trying to give it a chance, but I haven't yet encountered a situation where I thought to myself "Wow, that was actually worth using."

Outside of having more Energy Drains for a DPS opener, I haven't found any significant advantage to using this skill. Maybe raids will surprise me, but I expect not.

Edit: If you have suggestions as to what its capabilities are, please share. Honestly curious to see if anyone has discovered a genuine use for this aside from the aforementioned ED spam.

[Tumgar]

The best use for 3 aetherflow stacks you can think of it for 3 energy drains used on an opener? That's not taking into consideration the extra % healing that we get

[Cynfael]

The best use for 3 aetherflow stacks you can think of it for 3 energy drains used on an opener? That's not taking into consideration the extra % healing that we get

The extra healing power is both unnecessary and countered by the loss of your healing buddy with her own GCD. If I really wanted +20% healing power for a short time, I'd summon Eos instead of Selene and buff myself along with the fairy and my co-healer, and get to keep my fairy out on top of it.

Dissipation could contribute to a strong mitigation effort to help a raid survive a mechanic that SHOULD kill them at their current ilvl/HP, but that's both a very situational use and one that disappears as players progress.

Edit: Speaking specifically of the extra Aetherflow stacks, what else am I going to use them for? I don't need that much Lustrate spam, and Indom has a 30 second CD (as does Soil, not that it's particularly useful outside of raid mechanic mitigation, anyway).

[Tumgar]

The extra healing power is both unnecessary and countered by the loss of your healing buddy with her own GCD. If I really wanted +20% healing power for a short time, I'd summon Eos instead of Selene and buff myself along with the fairy and my co-healer, and get to keep my fairy out on top of it.

Dissipation could contribute to a strong mitigation effort to help a raid survive a mechanic that SHOULD kill them at their current ilvl/HP, but that's both a very situational use and one that disappears as players progress.

Edit: Speaking specifically of the extra Aetherflow stacks, what else am I going to use them for? I don't need that much Lustrate spam, and Indom has a 30 second CD (as does Soil, not that it's particularly useful outside of raid mechanic mitigation, anyway).

So consider it a free 3 aetherflow stacks then. That's not that bad of an ability to me