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  1. #11
    Player
    Fingerhut's Avatar
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    Hildi Freiherr
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aedra View Post
    ...
    This is a troll thread right?
    I don't think so because I had such a DK without Darkside (and ofc without using Dark Arts) and mostly using the enmity rotation. I was told to "stfu" when I asked him why and that this is "his way to play".
    DKs without Darkside active should be kicked right away. They deal 15-25% less damage (due to Dark Arts and the 15% buff from Darkside) and don't have the massive selfheal and defensiv provided from it. And that with level 60. Such a DK is just a loss for the group. Gets much more damage and deals way lesser damage than he should. Who didn't learn BASIC class mechanics in 30 levels probably should play another class instead of being a burden for every group he joins.
    Why doesn't some people learn that there is NO benefit from NOT using Darkside? And btw. DK can use his Syphon Strike Combo most of the time because the overall enmity is so good. Deals a bit more damage, restores MP and you can use Dark Arts more often. Using Dark Arts more often gives you massive self heals and damage and defensive abilitys.
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    Last edited by Fingerhut; 06-30-2015 at 03:51 PM.

  2. #12
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    Zhane's Avatar
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    Character
    Benjamin Belmont
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    I do speedruns in Level 60 dungeons without the usage of any defensive cooldowns. Having Darkside active is mandatory since it grants access to your dark abilities which are crucial for big pulls ♡
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  3. #13
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Character
    Kori Fleming
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhane View Post
    I do speedruns in Level 60 dungeons without the usage of any defensive cooldowns. Having Darkside active is mandatory since it grants access to your dark abilities which are crucial for big pulls ♡
    You should probably be using defensive CDs, even if you're staying alive it likely means the healer isn't DPSing because you're spiking too hard.
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  4. #14
    Player Able's Avatar
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    New Gridania (Sargatanas)
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    Character
    Alinda Thorn
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
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    Yea, you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, pal. I tank on my DRK with 100% uptime on Darkside and I have no issues keeping hate or managing MP. And, my mitigation is just fine. Thanks, though.

    You do realize you actually LOSE mitigation and self-healing with Darkside off, right?
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  5. #15
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    Dayala's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    D'ayhala Uhn
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Isn't there an issue with Regen eating up MP with certain DRK abilities? I know MP management got better with our DRK tank when healers stopped putting Regen on him. He was starving for MP before we did the switch (after reading it in the forums) and now there's no problems at all, healer has to pay more attention though lol.

    I didn't read anything about it in the hotfix patches from last night - not sure if working as intended.
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  6. #16
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Character
    Dererk Titan
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    You do know you need dark side on for dark dance and other stuff
    Right.
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  7. #17
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    shinros's Avatar
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    Character
    Malakaz Vosoma
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Dark side should be on majority of the time the only time you should switch it off is if your mp is low. I still feel SE should take off the mp cost on grit though.
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  8. #18
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    Zyph's Avatar
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    Character
    Zafeira Zhalwann
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    As a DRK there's never a time to turn off Darkside.

    Ever.
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  9. #19
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Character
    Reynhart Kristensen
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    Focus on holding aggro and not on what your damage is!
    Darkside boosts damage by 15% and can be used with Grit.
    So, pop Grit, pop Darkside, run into mobs with Unleash, pop Blood Price and spam Unleash for higher enmity due to the boosted damage without caring for your MP pool.

    tl;dr: Bad advice.
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  10. #20
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    Ruination's Avatar
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    Character
    Ruination Glyph
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    As per leveling my own Dark Knight, I burn through alot of MP keeping aggro from ranged AOEers and while having a High Damage Melee or Physical DPS in the group. As I have been leveling my 2nd job to 60 which is BLM, I have noticed so many bad Dark Knights in game more focused on acting like they are a DPS role and damage than actually a tank! Darkness is Dark Knights DPS stance while grit is our tank stance.....using it in boss fights is fine since most of the time there are little to no adds.....but during large pulls such as in level 53 dungeon...or the level 60 dungeons....it is so easy for a Dark Knight to lose hate with other geared players which easily wipe a party! Stay in grit stance and remember that Dark Knight is a tank...not dps. Focus on holding aggro and not on what your damage is!
    please never tank for me or my family
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