Buff Bards or Riot

[Wavaryen]

But it's true.

Your argument about the casting thing not fitting the role is fine. The TC wanted buffs which isn't.

I'm just sick of seeing countless buff bard threads since pre-HW.

Ok I can understand that. I am not a tester of dps as I have not hit high level yet. I just know that I have been getting some hate for being a bard in a group. There has to be a reason why. As most of the time people was very nice to me. I don't understand where it is coming from.

[Drood424]

I just don't bother using WM - problem solved.

[ErzaScarlet77]

So people should not be upset that they took a class design that made it fun for many people, and tossed it away? Also, this game like it or not forces us to group with each other. Seeing others go, *sigh* another brd or mch. when you first join makes one feel really good.

So brd lost what made them fun, and are weaker to show for it. Your logic makes no sense.

you didnt lose anything. nothing was "tossed away". you can still go strafe and pew pew all you want just like you were in ARR.
this is a completely simple concept to understand
youre a DPS
does this skill help increase my DPS?
yes? use it
no?dont use it

and when you see other people go *sigh* another BRD, you shoudlnt be mad, you should be excited to prove them wrong and go outdps them

[Wavaryen]

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Tossing away and not using the new skills would hurt our damage even more. If I pick to ignore them, I am doing a disjustice to the people I am grouping with. That is not fair on them. When I group with others, I want to play the best I can out of respect for that group. That is just how I feel.

So with the new tools, we are suppose to gain more dps with them at the cost of what made the class fun for many others, and what we gain is dislike for our sub par dps. Is that really fair? Should people just suck it up?

I love the class, and I will never be as good as others as I am disable. I try my best, and even if it is not as much fun. I will use it.

[Evangela]

buff White Mage too, or riot.

[ErzaScarlet77]

Tossing away and not using the new skills would hurt our damage even more. If I pick to ignore them, I am doing a disjustice to the people I am grouping with. That is not fair on them. When I group with others, I want to play the best I can out of respect for that group. That is just how I feel.

So with the new tools, we are suppose to gain more dps with them at the cost of what made the class fun for many others, and what we gain is dislike for our sub par dps. Is that really fair? Should people just suck it up?

I love the class, and I will never be as good as others as I am disable. I try my best, and even if it is not as much fun. I will use it.

at the end of the day. its about YOU. what do you want from this game? youre the one paying the sub, not these faceless strangers. if im forced by a group to play ninja just so their dps can be a bit higher (i dont like ninja) i will say no.
they might kick me from FC/LS/static or whatever but i dont care. i play this game to enjoy myself. not pleasing others.

if bard is fun for you, keep playing it
if you dont like using WM, then dont use it
if people are giving you crap about it, either learn to put up some big number or just ignore them. remember these are faceless people on the internet, theyre nobody. youll never meet 99% of people you meet in df again. if its your personal friends giving you crap, well you need to find new friends


anyway, thats kinda a big rant. sorry. im sure if BRD (and MCH) is legitimately underpowered, SE will buff them somehow
just be patient and wait until the numbers from alexander show up

[Spawnie]

new trend that ive noticed last couple days via DF pop up starts once team forms n cutscene is done see some1 say eiwwww bard then eithier sit around doin nothin or abandon and eat the penalty.. even had some1 threaten to kick me cause im a bard lol and that some1 was a dragoon which made me laugh cause of the common loldragoons

eithier form your own parties n farm runs that way or just suck it up n play with what DF gives you

[Vespar]

new trend that ive noticed last couple days via DF pop up starts once team forms n cutscene is done see some1 say eiwwww bard then eithier sit around doin nothin or abandon and eat the penalty.. even had some1 threaten to kick me cause im a bard lol and that some1 was a dragoon which made me laugh cause of the common loldragoons

eithier form your own parties n farm runs that way or just suck it up n play with what DF gives you

Thats sad that even folks in DF have started to hate us. -_-;

Your argument about the casting thing not fitting the role is fine. The TC wanted buffs which isn't.
I'm just sick of seeing countless buff bard threads since pre-HW.

I personally am not asking for a "buff". Just that they modify Wanderer's Minuet in some other way so it is less of a nerf.

[AskaRay]

I've literally never received hate in a DF group? Ever? For being a bard at least.
And I use WM quite often..

[Spawnie]

Thats sad that even folks in DF have started to hate us. -_-;

actually made me laugh cause coming from a dragoon... guess they forgot about all the complaining we endured about them being left out of stuff cause thier class was broken xD even funnier was i was geared alot better then him :P when the AST in the party said that exact thing the dragoon got nasty to her aswell ._.

@askaray thats why i said its a new trend lol even got scolded for usin WM in nevereap ive played bard since beta n never experienced any bard hate til day b4 yesterday XD