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    I agree with sciondar and Nyalia. As awesome as the idea of seeing an entry in the perfect location under the perfect conditions sounds, in practice it's just far too much trouble and wasted time on each and every entry. Either you have to get lucky with the conditions being perfect when you pass through, or you have to sit and wait for possibly hours upon hours on end to get those conditions to show up, (or you have to pay close attention to the skywatchers and plan accordingly). Either way, it's just too much trouble for too little of a reward. I much prefer HW take on it where you can just do the emote at any point regardless of conditions to get it. It means that if I see the location for it, I can actually get it rather than having to hope RNGeesus has deemed me worthy of getting it. The one thing I wish is that there were actual hints to point you in the direction of the locations, rather than just the vague, "it's in this giant area and you do this emote"......

    On Topic: My sightseeing log also seemed like it was missing all the ARR entries as well, though I can't verify this at the moment as I'm away from the game itself. Judging by the conflicting reports in this thread, it could either be a bug affecting people who didn't do the ARR entries, or it could simply be that we're missing something when looking at it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer3427 View Post
    I agree with sciondar and Nyalia. As awesome as the idea of seeing an entry in the perfect location under the perfect conditions sounds, in practice it's just far too much trouble and wasted time on each and every entry. Either you have to get lucky with the conditions being perfect when you pass through, or you have to sit and wait for possibly hours upon hours on end to get those conditions to show up, (or you have to pay close attention to the skywatchers and plan accordingly). Either way, it's just too much trouble for too little of a reward. I much prefer HW take on it where you can just do the emote at any point regardless of conditions to get it. It means that if I see the location for it, I can actually get it rather than having to hope RNGeesus has deemed me worthy of getting it. The one thing I wish is that there were actual hints to point you in the direction of the locations, rather than just the vague, "it's in this giant area and you do this emote"......
    I don't agree that every piece of content needs to be simplified to the point that it finally appeals to a large audience that otherwise wouldn't have the patience for a side activity. I suspect most wouldn't even bother with this activity if an experience reward weren't now attached to it.

    I would argue that eventually the entire process will be simplified to the point where you get experience for simply passing within range of a vista, but that's pretty much how map "exploration" already works. It's always interesting to see where people believe the line should be drawn, however.

    I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, just understand that for those of us who enjoyed hunting these locations down (and purely out of the fondness of doing so, as there were no XP rewards associated with the ARR spots), something has been lost. I suspect those who love raiding, PvP, or a number of other optional activities would be/have been annoyed if/when they were simplified for the masses as well.
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    Last edited by Gyson; 06-30-2015 at 08:32 AM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Words.
    I agree that it shouldn't be over simplified, and I can also agree that some aspects would be better as they were before. The point I'm getting at though is that very few people can play for the hours on end required to get many of the log entries before. The problem is that many players only have a few hours a day at most to play, and because of the way time and weather conditions work in game, it could literally be months of real world time before they could view one of the vistas. The skywatchers do help, but only if they tell you the weather is going to be right within your playing time frame. This completely excludes the content from a very large portion of the fan base, which should never be a goal. I'd rather it be a bit over simplified to make it so everyone can enjoy it, rather than it be so complex that almost no one, (relatively speaking), can. I wouldn't mind them being a bit more complex in that they lose the marker and regain the hints to the locations, but overall, I prefer the current version than the old one.....

    If you're truly annoyed with this, and are really just doing the sightseeing log to view the sights of Eorzea, well good news; you don't have to have a game mechanic to let you do that. Go out and view the world yourself. Create your own personal sightseeing log and share it with friends. If you do this, I'd like to share one of my own. Go view the spire in the distance at Aleport at sunset. It's a sight to behold. Here's a picture of me with my carbuncle for reference, though it hardly does it justice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

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    Got to an ARR zone, you'll get the first page of ARR back.
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    Lol HW= just fly up to any area that sticks out ( usually ontop of high statues/ buildings and bam ss log )
    Or
    Fly to a floating or place that cannot be accessed without flying.
    All of that = 90% of ss logs in HW
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    I just used the internet to figure out the ARR sightseeing log. The last hint I paid attention to before cheating was the Buscarron's Druthers one. What was I doin' up there at dawn in the pourin' rain? The hint suggests you need to be there at 5am-6am during rain, but in truth it is 10am-12pm during light thunderstorms.

    10am is not dawn.
    Thunderstorms is not pouring rain.

    I think they realized they couldn't write hints worth a damn, so they just lit up the new vantage points and said to hell with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    I just used the internet to figure out the ARR sightseeing log. The last hint I paid attention to before cheating was the Buscarron's Druthers one. What was I doin' up there at dawn in the pourin' rain? The hint suggests you need to be there at 5am-6am during rain, but in truth it is 10am-12pm during light thunderstorms.

    10am is not dawn.
    Thunderstorms is not pouring rain.

    I think they realized they couldn't write hints worth a damn, so they just lit up the new vantage points and said to hell with it.
    To a drunk person, 10am IS dawn, and drowning in their own sweat and vomit would probably make it seem like it was pouring rain in a thunderstorm. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    To a drunk person, 10am IS dawn, and drowning in their own sweat and vomit would probably make it seem like it was pouring rain in a thunderstorm. xD
    Lol, that was actually my exact thinking at the time. But still, it was the 3rd or 4th "hint" in a row that I'd followed that was incorrect, and I remember waiting days for the rainy weather to match up with the correct time only to be disappointed. I wonder if maybe the writer of these hints wasn't ALSO waking up from a night of heavy drinking.
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    Did they take the stupid day/time/weather restrictions out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble View Post
    Did they take the stupid day/time/weather restrictions out?
    Yeah, and the vantage points are now glowing spots, so you know right where to land your flying mount. But the hint system is pretty much useless now other than for indicating which /emote you should use.

    oh, but not for 2.0 stuff. The simple sightseeing is only for 3.0 content, but rewards xp for finding locations.
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