No more Accuracy on Healer's equipment

[Hypie]

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You are forcing your playstyle on others and say if they dont play like you do this game is not for them. Thats plain rude and not really productive.
Again its not my job to dps as a heal. i can do it but im not forced to do it. i rather leave the raid and call it elitist snobism and/or lazyness.

[Cynfael]

Actually that is exactly what it means.

Except that it isn't, unless you have secret Yoshida internal documents on the subject of which we aren't aware that would completely clarify matters.

For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

Assuming that the above quote is correctly translated, it says nothing about the state of healer DPS in general. The entire paragraph from which this quote was taken refers specifically to raid design, server-first clears, etc.

[MidnightTundra]

You are forcing your playstyle on others and say if they dont play like you do this game is not for them. Thats plain rude and not really productive.

I wasn't really forcing anything. Your job is to make sure we're all alive first and foremost; anything extra is just icing on the cake. I mentioned AST because it is not a lax healer in the least. You don't have a pet healing for you; you do not have god-like mana sustain; your healing cooldowns are non-existant. It's also very buff-oriented so sliding through the cracks is easier than say.. a SCH not DPSing during a raid.

Unfortunately in high-end content, people are going to force things on you that you may not want to do. I merely suggested that if the end-game community, in correlation with the mechanics of a healer in FFXIV, is taking its toll on your amount of "fun" with the game, I recommend playing something else.

My previous post did not contain sarcasm if you were wondering.

[Niroken]

I find it odd how a tank's role is to tank damage and they can contribute to DPS, especially offtanks/warriors, but for some reason if a healer starts DPSing it's the end of the world. I guess we need a sword or an axe to fit the image.

[Cynfael]

I find it odd how a tank's role is to tank damage and they can contribute to DPS, especially offtanks/warriors, but for some reason if a healer starts DPSing it's the end of the world. I guess we need a sword or an axe to fit the image.

They tend to forget that a tank isn't required to do significant DPS to fill their role; they have enough enmity tools to do less damage than a SMN's egi and still hold threat in most situations.

However, good tanks are expected to know when to pump up their DPS. It's not so different.

[Alistaire]

Add accuracy to cleric stance the way they added acc to tank stances; problem solved.

[Knoahl]

Just a heads up, darklight gear and i90 AF for healers annnnd coil gear also didn't have accuracy, we didn't really need it in coil back at 2.0 launch you could still get DPS in using accuracy food and maybe a crafted acessory or two. It may just be a first tier thing due to scaling and could change

As for the healer dps debate, we have tools we can use them how we want ^^ be creative! Im just greatful I can aid low dps in random groups .__. Or id feel helpless in DF dungeons

[SDaemon]

Except that it isn't, unless you have secret Yoshida internal documents on the subject of which we aren't aware that would completely clarify matters.

If you want to ignore how he clearly described how dps checks don't account for healer dps, be my guest.

[Nague]

tank actions for emnity and dps actions are the same, you hit stuff.
healing and dpsing are not the same, thats why lots of healers dont like dpsing.


also, heals are dynamic and every fight is different, DPSing is doing the same stuff in the same order and that is exactly what some people ried to avoid when choosing healer, its just that the devs dont get the fights right and the damage is too little and so at least 1 healer has neither mana problems nor healing pressure problems and so he has to DPS.

If phases would rob healers of mana and they wouldnt have any to spend on dps or if they simply needed 2 fulltime heals, then we wouldnt even have this discussion, but sadly healing is too eassy in this game for now and the only difficult thing is learning the mechanics by heart and then passing the dps check.

[Cynfael]

If you want to ignore how he clearly described how dps checks don't account for healer dps, be my guest.

I didn't ignore that; I acknowledged it. What that doesn't say is that healer DPS is somehow unintended.