Your thoughts on Astrolgian so far?

[Nague]

you mock selene for the 3% bufff , but your own buff AE is 5% and you need a few minutes on average to draw the 2 cards.

[SenzorialBoundries]

I dont know why ppl go at theorycrafting and stuff the fact is SCH was always borderline broken as a class, only lacked reliable aoe heals which now they got in form of emergency tactics and indomitability, 30 sec cooldown is more than enough too due to the frequency at which aoe dmg happens in most encounters (t13 is prob still the most aoe heavy fight to date). AST as a class is "okish" but if the other healer fucks up you are boned you can just sit and watch how things go to hell, balancing ast will also be nearly impossible due to its hybrid nature , by buffing its heals will indirectly nerf WHM and vice versa with shields. I dont think SE will ever give ast any more potency than it already has.
Only thing they can do with AST is make Cards less random and rework lightspeed.

[Eraqus]

^ your wrong sir I'm sorry. Rebalancing this class doesn't mean nerfing the others. -_-' it's just making a balance.

[SovereignAegis]

I feel that they should boost card effects to make Astrologian more competitive, however even at present I enjoy an Astrologian with myself as they are more aggressive than either WHM or SCH.


However we should be quite careful because at present an Astrologian can make a blackmage become a deity with their cards.

Or 20% "the imabalanced", that is a ridiculously powerful combo and then extend the effect and all of a sudden you have a DPS chunking crap.

[Kyln]

AST takes quite a bit of finesse to play. It's a hybrid class, which means it is not ever going to be better than it's predecessor classes which everyone keeps comparing it to.

That aside, AST is a lot of fun as a class. It's challenging to the better player, with a high skill cap, but might be incredibly difficult to the average player. You will lose your mana very quickly if you are not careful, or if your tank is not rolling CDs. Your healing potency is lackluster in comparison to the other healing classes, which is what makes AST challenging. The utilization of dignity is a must. Whilst weaving actual support cards for your party (balance, arrow, bole if necessary).

I did Ravana Extreme farm with double AST. I was in Noct and he was in Diurnal (our healing was about the same). It was challenging. Our MCH had to roll mana turret often, and it forced people to not make mistakes because the recovery ability from AST is weak.

[Shamirah]

Ok so what you're basically saying Kyln is that Ast is below the other two and require YOU and EVERYONE ELSE to do good in order to survive.

Yup, that's perfect balance right there.

[Kyln]

Ok so what you're basically saying Kyln is that Ast is below the other two and require YOU and EVERYONE ELSE to do good in order to survive.

Yup, that's perfect balance right there.

It is balanced, albeit some skills -are- broken or need a buff. It's a hybrid healing class with a high skill cap. Especially to play noct sect properly. Mana management is on a whole new level with this class. I don't expect people to just pick this class up and be exceptional. It's going to take time.

[Nague]

there isnt anything hybrid, AST is either shield or regen, you have to decide before the fight.
you could also just change from WHM to SCH before a fight.


so there is no special power with deciding between shield sor regen before a fight.



If it were DURING a fight, that would be different

[SaintK]

Stuff.

Lol "Many AST believe they should be able to switch between WHM and SCH?" Really? No we don't. Any AST has figured out by now that Nocturnal Sect is much weaker than the other sect. Why would we want to switch to that Sect, especially when the fotm healer is SCH, who overrides the shields in that sect? You're right on one account though, we do pay for that versatility, as crappy as it is. Look at our kit. The proc of benefic 1 is practically useless, and we have no relevant cooldowns (Lol lightspeed). Pretty steep price to have such mediocre abilities like being able to switch stances before combat, between one that is okay and one that is completely useless when theres a SCH around. Without your AST partner you wouldn't be able to heal Ravana EX? Yeah well im willing to bet with any of the other healers, you would do it better. What we want is something useful we can bring to raids, whether its cooldowns some kind of specailized healing or some ABILITY that isn't a watered down version of the other two healers, because these RNG cards are not worth it.

[Kyln]

there isnt anything hybrid, AST is either shield or regen, you have to decide before the fight.
you could also just change from WHM to SCH before a fight.


so there is no special power with deciding between shield sor regen before a fight.



If it were DURING a fight, that would be different

Yes, the class is considered a hybrid. Which is why you can change between regen or shields. Again, pointing this out that: neither of these Sects are as good as the other healing counterparts and thus should not be associated comparatively.

No, you cannot change Sects on the fly, however, you may change your healing style while the other healers cannot. You can also go into Noct Sect, put up shields on your party, then switch to Dirunal for the pull to save stoneskins. It's all about how you push this class to the next level.