The Tale of the Dark Knight (DRK Spoilers)

[Cilia]

Yeah, if you bother to read (or re-read) the 35-50 quests prior to "Fray" being exposed, s/he basically hijacks it and writes sardonic text instead of the usual objective and compassionate entries. The ending one (before the battle at Whitebrim) even says something like "You've been called to Whitebrim, where you may be forced to surrender your weapon. Well, nothing to do but go there and kill them all." And yes, "Fray's" gender is changed depending on your character's sex as a means to foreshadow the truth at 50.

Regardless, the point of being a DRK is that you're someone who has seen the ugly truth - that without your mask of heroism, you're just a thug who kills stuff for a sporting battle, and deep down you might hate people for forcing their problems on you and being ungrateful when you pull through for them. To give into those dark impulses would make you nothing more than a common criminal, though. What makes you a Dark Knight is that you've seen and accepted that ugliness - and fight on anyway with no illusions that you're good or righteous. Dark Knights fight not out of duty, religion, or custom, but purely because they choose to. They make sacrifices of their own righteousness to do what must be done under no delusion they're heroic at all.

In that sense, they're the perfect Job for the morally grey Dragonsong War.

I did not agree to kill Nidhogg because I wanted to or believe there would be glory in doing so, but the modern smallfolk of Ishgard are in no way responsible for Thordan and his Knights' sins and deserve to be free of Nidhogg's endless torment. Diplomacy being impossible, my hand was forced...

This does not absolve the Holy See of hiding the truth and perpetuating the war under false pretenses. If they refuse to show their ugly side to the world, I'll drag it out of the darkness with my own two hands.

[Hypie]

I always saw Fray as a combination of a P4 shadow and Archer from Fate/Stay Night. Especially whenever "he" talked about being a hero.

Side note: Look at my name. Look at Fray's. Look up their origins and imagine the extra level of mind screw I endured during this story.

Thats why i love my au ra drk. she remembers me all the time of saber which is perfect because saber had a high magical resistance too

And yep i loved the 30-50 Job Story really much. The 50-60 is...rather meh or so-so.

[saber_alter]

Thats why i love my au ra drk. she remembers me all the time of saber which is perfect because saber had a high magical resistance too

And yep i loved the 30-50 Job Story really much. The 50-60 is...rather meh or so-so.

It was straightforward. nothing wrong with that.

[Hypie]

It was straightforward. nothing wrong with that.

Yeah but after such a deep 30-50 Job Story it was kinda...platonic? I don't know the proper Word for it in English not native =/

[saber_alter]

Yeah but after such a deep 30-50 Job Story it was kinda...platonic? I don't know the proper Word for it in English not native =/

platonic would be about right. idk, love makes us do weird shit.

[shinros]

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Well yeah as fray and sid master said the mantra of the dark knight is "Defend the meek punish the wicked" your not a hero most people will hate you for what you are and the powers you wield since it feeds on negative emotions and pain. Still after talking with people it seems after the 50 quest they changed their character's view somewhat. I think overall the quest line questions WHY does your character fight? Is it truly what you are fighting for? If all the ugliness the dark parts of you were laid bear will you change?

I have to admit my character did he will keep fighting but not under some guise of righteousness or for the light etc but he will fight because he has to and has the strength to do so and people are afraid of him or hate him so bet it. Plus he care's a lot less about eorzea as whole and its politics and about them being "united". *Shakes fists at uldah* Instead its about protecting the meek and those who abuse them and it made him realize how important his comrades are. Since they keep him "grounded" from giving in completely to the dark side in my eyes. As Fray said having strength is a sacrifice in itself and there will be endless suffering in gaining more strength as well. Being a dark knight is a pretty grim existence.

I do agree the the dark knight fits quite neatly in the themes of the main story.

After reading the quest journal it puts a whole new perspective on my character perhaps even adds to it is dam brilliant its pretty much your dark side writing in your quest journal. XD

[Molic]

So this storyline is like Fight Club

[Mahri]

So this storyline is like Fight Club

More or less.

I have to say that the DRK quests, whatever their inspiration, are far and beyond all of the other class/job quest stories (some of which are still pretty good). The self-awareness that this game demonstrates, and the fact that they use it as the punchline to a story that most people probably expected to be tiresomely angsty, is just wonderful.

[shinros]

More or less.

I have to say that the DRK quests, whatever their inspiration, are far and beyond all of the other class/job quest stories (some of which are still pretty good). The self-awareness that this game demonstrates, and the fact that they use it as the punchline to a story that most people probably expected to be tiresomely angsty, is just wonderful.

Yeah, plus the quest journal entries for the 30-50 job quests are amazing, I recommend people to read them when you get the chance.

[Nilheim]

The first thing I noticed about Fray was that his eyes were exactly like mine (quite distinctive which is why it hit me). I don't know if that was the same for everyone (I have pale yellow eyes) or not but I started suspecting Fray didn't exist and we were just going batshit crazy after the level 35 quest. It became really obvious that Fray is you (I think he's just not there at all and it's your fucked up mind imagining him being there) and that his lines are what you are saying after that quest with that asshole merchant in Moraby ("I should've let you all drown").

Very reverse FFIV at times which I loved and I was hoping we'd get to fight our dark self. Needless to say I was not disappointed by the lv50 fight. After 50 though I found the Sid/Rielle story a bit meh after such a personal take on a job's quests. They weren't bad but I was hoping the trend would continue.