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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    I'm unable to parse because I'm on ps4 so I'm just curious because that sounds like really good dps - on sch you CS -> Shadowflare -> BioII/Miasma/Bio -> Bane?
    I'll prebuff adlo/stoneskin as the previous pack dies then switch to CS early (To ensure I can drop out of it right on the pull if something goes wrong), from there it's Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Bane > Swiftcast Shadowflare followed usually by up to 3 aeros depending on how squishy the tank is. Drop CS > Lustrate > Phys > Adlo and repeat with a second trio of dots + bane. The goal is to get the second set of dots up before Miasma wears.

    Videos!

    http://www.hitbox.tv/video/569706 <-- Typical 2-3 mob pulls, 650-900dps
    http://www.hitbox.tv/video/569709 <-- Bigger pull that I wasn't expecting and thus was rather messy with plenty more dps potential on the table. A 'measly' 900dps.
    http://www.hitbox.tv/video/569699 <-- The big supersize reaper pull towards the end of fractal, 1400 np with the potential for more given that the tank was super good.
    http://www.hitbox.tv/video/569671 <-- Phantom Ray aka a punchbag boss, a little sloppy on my part tbh, an extra mug of coffee would have seen me nudging on 500dps.
    http://www.hitbox.tv/video/569707 <-- Waukkeon aka a hateful annoying boss with the full suite of twisters, invulnerable phases and movement, 350dps.

    Please note that these runs were solo queue EX roulette, taking along stronger DPS would have dipped my numbers on certain pulls (most notably the big reaper double pack) whereas an FC tank would likely help me push that little bit more. Please also take these numbers with a delicate pinch of salt, I fully appreciate that there are far better DPS Scholars out there than me but hopefully these numbers will help clarify the shortfall that ASTs face right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizersan View Post
    That's likely because SE intended for AST to buff party damage through cards and not do dps themselves but increase the overall dps of the party.
    Indeed they did, the problem is that the cards don't add even remotely enough to compare to what I can do on my SCH even in a best case bubble scenario. Pull a few arrows/spires back to back and the disparity is flat out shameful.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 06-28-2015 at 08:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I'll prebuff adlo/stoneskin as the previous pack dies then switch to CS early (To ensure I can drop out of it right on the pull if something goes wrong), from there it's Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Bane > Swiftcast Shadowflare followed usually by up to 3 aeros depending on how squishy the tank is. Drop CS > Lustrate > Phys > Adlo and repeat with a second trio of dots + bane.

    Drop Aero, go Miasma II and spam Blizzard 2. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Drop Aero, go Miasma II and spam Blizzard 2. :P
    I'm wagering that's 2000dps on the reaper pull? Ty for the tip <3

    *edit* is the trade off worth it for the 2/3 mob packs btw?

    *edit2*

    Lol

    http://www.hitbox.tv/video/569779
    http://www.hitbox.tv/video/569782

    Approaching 1400dps on both despite competing with far stronger DPS members on that run although note that I was getting foes.

    Seemed about 50 dps down on the bosses which is a pretty fair trade, I struggled with MP in places but I suspect that'll improve with practice, nice suggestion+++
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 06-28-2015 at 09:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    snip
    Yeah, not that important in raids tho, atm the windows to dps are relatively tight for healers, except in primals burn phases.
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    Last edited by Remilia_Nightfall; 06-28-2015 at 10:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I'll prebuff adlo/stoneskin as the previous pack dies then switch to CS early (To ensure I can drop out of it right on the pull if something goes wrong), from there it's Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Bane > Swiftcast Shadowflare followed usually by up to 3 aeros depending on how squishy the tank is. Drop CS > Lustrate > Phys > Adlo and repeat with a second trio of dots + bane. The goal is to get the second set of dots up before Miasma wears.
    Thanks that's my general plan too
    Stick SS and Adlo up before pull -> into CS
    I usually stick up SF first because I feel like the mitigation lets me stay in CS longer.

    For something like Waukkeon in a pug though - my dps falls through the floor because people are getting smacked around too much haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I'll prebuff adlo/stoneskin as the previous pack dies
    Rebuffing the group with Stoneskin in between pulls is a good habit to get into in general on any healer. I've always found it very useful and have continued to do it as I level AST as well.
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