A serious discussion about abridging the story quest 1-50 (discouraging new players)

[Erepio]

PS: I just wanted to add that adjusting the MSQ doesn't mean removing: it means, well, adjusting, fixing, improving, making it go faster; as far as I'm concerned nobody really asked for removing it totally.

you should rly go back and read posts, some ppl, including the OP now are demanding the story to be completely optional rather than just trim a few quest down to streamline it (which btw would just mean u have to either do side quest ie more fetch/kill quest, fates or dungeons, when u could just do the main story quest since they up the exp gain for 1-49)

[Voltyblast]

you should rly go back and read posts, some ppl, including the OP now are demanding the story to be completely optional rather than just trim a few quest down to streamline it (which btw would just mean u have to either do side quest ie more fetch/kill quest, fates or dungeons, when u could just do the main story quest since they up the exp gain for 1-49)

And that means....flexibility? Making it optional doesn't mean removing it, as far as I'm concerned? The story is there just...you don't choose it. But it's there. Need I say more?

And about the story exp gain being upgraded: I barely noticed the difference. It's higher yes but I still needed to do optional quests and FATEs to keep up the levels. Right now I'm not seeing extremely big differences but on that regard I won't put a full judgement. I can definitely say more when I'm closer to higher levels.

[Erepio]

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and that is where the problem

the core of the game is its story, most dungeons are story related, PvP is behind story (need to get GC before u can do it), challenge log is behind story...in HW its gonna be even worse forl ppl that dont like story since even side-quest are behind story, flying is behind story... this is a STORY DRIVEN MMO

why ppl suddenly decided they dont like how the game works since 2.0 its been like that is beyond me


ppl are making it seem its easy to just make story optional, its not..... and as i posted YoshiP already said it is this way by design and that will not chance till like 4.0 (for stuff in 2.0-3.x)

Swtor is a single-player with endgame mmo features
WoW is an MMO with single player features
FFXIV is a story driven MMO


ps: So at the end if u dont like the story or heck if u cant stomach to just skip the cut-scenes then this game isnt for you and stop trying to make it "suit your needs"....some of us play the game cuse we like it the way it and its for us,...for you, there like a hundred of MMOs out there go pick one

[Voltyblast]

and that is where the problem

the core of the game is its story, most dungeons are story related, PvP is behind story (need to get GC before u can do it), challenge log is behind story...in HW its gonna be even worse forl ppl that dont like story since even side-quest are behind story, flying is behind story... this is a STORY DRIVEN MMO

Hence why a lot of people want the story to be adjusted a bit: giving it more experience doesn't really mean it's faster when you still need to wait hours for a dungeon, which is story related, to pop so I can go further. That's why I would like at least the dungeons to be either removed OR be soloable in case it takes too long for getting a group.

As of now I was lucky enough to get a group on my alt for the first 3 dungeons, but how long my luck will run? I can skip the dialogues and cutscenes, but not a dungeon.

PS: also, starting to say that I need a company or "friends" just to get myself helped for a dungeon, isn't exactly a good solution.

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So at the end if u dont like the story or heck if u cant stomach to just skip the cut-scenes then this game isnt for you and stop trying to make it "suit your needs"....some of us play the game cuse we like it the way it and its for us,...for you, there like a hundred of MMOs out there go pick one

As I said, nobody likes to be slapped for having a different tastes than the others: with that behaviour you won't incite new players to continue playing.

[Erepio]

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As I said, nobody likes to be slapped for having a different tastes than the others: with that behaviour you won't incite new players to continue playing.

if u have different taste why are u play this when it doesn't suit ur taste? if some1 tells me that they like pvp and they interested in the game, i tell the to go play GW2 or ESO since pvp in FFXIV is just plain bad....if some1 tells me they dont like story i tell them that FFXIV is extremely story driven and they probably wont like it

i dont try to make a game to suit my taste, i play a game that suits my taste

ps: YoshiP already said they looking into making so u can take a grp of GC members or ur chocobo into a dungeon so u can solo it if u cant find a grp

[Voltyblast]

if u have different taste why are u play this when it doesn't suit ur taste? if some1 tells me that they like pvp and they interested in the game, i tell the to go play GW2 or ESO since pvp in FFXIV is just plain bad....if some1 tells me they dont like story i tell them that FFXIV is extremely story driven and they probably wont like it

Once again, say it with me:

"Just because you don't like one aspect of the game it doesn't mean you don't like the game in its entirety"

There are probably hundreds of people who play this game and probably care even less than I do about the story, while enjoy other aspects of it and keep playing for that reason alone even if the story it's the main purpose

With FFXIV, I like the game because of its glamour system, the dungeons, the classes and overall the character models in their details: does it mean that the fact that I don't like one aspect of the game makes me dislike it all?

If that was true I wouldn't be here talking about it.